New Department Proposal: Office of Public Relations

[Shaitan]

I think it's ready for a poll now, AJ. Your last revision brought it in nice and tight.

 

[disorganizer]

if fact, we wouldnt even need a poll. we would just need the chief justice to DEFINE it as it is an office under his department ;-)
thats one of the advantages of offices against departments

 

[Shaitan]

Quite right, dis. The office isn't being given any powers, it's simply an organizational structure of things any citizen may do.

 

[disorganizer]

Right Mr. Shaitan, the purpose is to give some citizens the responsibility over the job, so they really care to fullfill it.
Any citizen could do it, but if noone feels responsible for it noone will do it.

 

[Shaitan]

I'm going to ask for Justice Department feedback.

 

[Great Iguanaman]

i think there should simply be a time expiration. Thats it. Very simple. Neutral Leader, it is unneccasary to make so many rules and offices. Simply get rid of polls after, say, a month. If there are offices that determine what polls are clutter and what polls aren't then that would give them too much power. That office could easily pull strings to get rid of polls that dont fit in with the chairmans personal agenda. All in all, i think this is not a good idea.

The Great Iguanaman

 

[disorganizer]

The office will have no power to do so , igu.
They just report to the judges, they decide about that (like now).
The summarization will be the main part of the job though.

 

[neutral leader]

already though the red tape regarding deletion of obsolete and irrelevant polls and threads has needlessly cluttered the forums and possibly distracted attention from the more critical issues under discussion because people are too busy wading through the unneeded material.

 

[Great Iguanaman]

I agree with you entirely NL, so i dont know why im wasting my time with this post.

 

[neutral leader]

that was a quick turn around from your previous opinion iguanaman, was i really that eloquent?

 

[disorganizer]

so why do you two post in here if it is so useless?
you can easily see whether something is of interest for you by reading the discussion registry or not visiting "uninteresting" threads any more.
and dont assume that all what isnt interesting for you also isnt interesting for other people. your attitude is quiete ignorant as it seems, and if not please state so because then i missunderstood you 2 >-(

 

[Almightyjosh]

Ok, knock it off kiddies
I rpopose that we either put this to the judiciary or to a citizen poll first. Though it may not be technically nessisary, it would be nice to get citizen support.

 

[Shaitan]

I already asked for Judicial feedback and got no response. Try the citizens.

 

[neutral leader]

after 7 pages of discussion, no decision has been reached and what was once going to be a fine new department is rapidly having its power ebb away into a citizens group. in my opinion, this would be one of the first threads the pr department would close. its been fun, but i am disassociating myself from this proposal. go on without me.

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by neutral leader
after 7 pages of discussion, no decision has been reached and what was once going to be a fine new department is rapidly having its power ebb away into a citizens group. in my opinion, this would be one of the first threads the pr department would close. its been fun, but i am disassociating myself from this proposal. go on without me.

AJ posted a poll a little while ago...

 

[Shaitan]

The poll is here.

 

[Octavian X]

Wow, sorry. I've been buried in work recently, and have meant to look at this seriously for a long time.

I think the basic fundamentals of this group of ok. All I've looked at was that poll.

First, all decisions made to close polls should be approved by at least one member of the judiciary (it doesn't matter who).

Also, I would like the judiciay to have the power to appoint and throw out the holders of the three offices. To appoint of fire someone, a poll of the citizens would have to be held, with a quroum equal to half the active quroum (so the appoints/firings made be made quickly).

With those changes, I will approve of this office.

 

[Danke]

Having been asked by the Chief Justice, and in accordance with the duties of the Justice Department as outlined in the CoL, here is my opinion on the potential for the Public Relations Department, as defined in the description in the following poll, to conflict with the Constitution, CoL or CoS:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32286

I find that the proposed department does not conflict, but in fact, supports the letter and spirit of the exisiting laws.

I also suggest that the sponsors of the PRD create a new, binding poll so that we can get a quorum on this and have it implemented sometime before the next term.

 

[Shaitan]

@Danke - A poll isn't necessary as it's an office created by a Department. Hound your boss to set it up and get it going.

 

[Octavian X]

I would be glad to set it up. I will post a thread looking for applications.