New Department Proposal: Office of Public Relations

Wow! For once, Shaitan and Disorganizer haven't written up a nice article to the constitution! :D

Nice work.
 
Items I suggested changing are in italics. Items I suggest removing are in bold:

Article 1.1
PRIMARY GOAL:
1) To keep the Fanatikan people well heard with thier opinions, keeping the relationship between the government and the people in good standing.

ROLES AND OBLIGATIONS:
1) Work with judicacy to quickly identify invalid, strange or useless polls.
2) Work towards summarizing poll-results in the poll-index and registry.
3) Notify mods to close threads of outdated polls.
4) Initiate and organize discussion of poll rules and the standards for those rules.
5) Help citizens setup polls when they do not like to or do not know how to accomplish it.
6) Organize and schedule political debates.
7) Advise higher command on how to handle riots or citizen misbehavior.
8) To make sure the government and the people work together to make a better world.

Article 1.2
DUTIES:
1) Invalid, errored, strange, and useless poll detection, closing and deletion.
If a poll is found, he posts in judical thread for poll review. From there on, the judges take over. Eventually, the person holding the position will be able to make the distincion himself if no response is beheld within a week.

2) Issue a bi-monthly report summarizing all polls in that period of time. This report would also contain polls that were closed and/or deleted.

3) To close outdated polls. The Chief would now advise the command to close outdated polls or clear them out of the registry.(Remove this bolded part, it should be in the poll Standards, not part of the position description.) Also, in a period of 15 days after a similar polls closing, Citizen cannot create another poll of the same surface matter relating to the one that came before it.

4) The OPR (Remove this bolded part, this is already posted to the Judiciary thread. the OPR can simply subscribe to that thread.) MUST be advised beforehand on all changes to any law and SHOULD be consulted on poll laws, changes, and discussions.

5) Provide poll assistance for wording, or if the Citizen simply can not/does not have the ability to post a poll.

6) The orgaization of political debates is key to gather opinions from the vast majority of the citizens and could be refered to as NCM's. This event would take place at the beginning of every month. All Citizens are suggested but not required to attend such meetings.

7) The OPR should be notified of all matters of Citizen misbehavior, even how little disputes should be reported and documented for future purposes.

8) The OPR would be consulted and would advise on changes in poll laws, and standards.

Article 1.3
STRUCTURE OF OFFICE OF PUBLIC RELATIONS
Head Officer of Public Relations: Appointed by Chief Justice
Assitant Head Officer of Public Relations: Hired by Head Officer
Head of the Advisory Commission: Hired by Head Officer
Director of Elections: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Polling: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Organization and Issuing: Hired by Head Officer
Political Debate Organizer: Hired by Director of Organization and Issuing

HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (APPOINTED):
1) Would oversee all OPR operations and give final input on all poll operations.

2)(All citizens have this vote already.) Has a vote on all matters concering the state and well being of Fanatikan security.

ASSITANT HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) Assists the HEAD OFFICER on all duties listed above.

HEAD OF ADVISORY COMMISSION (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) The HAC's operations would fall under the jurisdiction of the Justices and is subject to critisim from that department.

2) The HAC would review ALL cases after a period of 30 days after final operation of polls and frequently monitor all polls to ensure the quality of the enviroment when polling.

DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS (HIRED BY CABINET):
(Election poll schedules are set in the Code of Standards.) 1) Organizes and schedules all election polls, and Issues results for those closed.

DIRECTOR OF POLLING (HIRED BY CABINET):
1) Finalizes reports and summaries of reports including public opinion in replies to polls.

DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZATION AND ISSUING (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) Organizes all OPR operations and moderates employees.
2) Organizes ALL political operations, including elections and inagurations.

POLITICAL DEBATE ORGANIZER (HIRED BY DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZATION AND ISSUING):
1) Develops political debates for all parties.
2) Moderates all political debates.

REQUIRMENT FOR FILLING ALL POSITIONS: Must be impartial to any and all ethnic groups (We don't have/allow parties.) and political parties to ensure unbaised moderation.

Article 1.4
CHANGES TO EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS

1) The OPR would become somewhat of an official PSC (polling standards commision). The two organizations would work intimately together on all aspects of power allocated to the OPR. After a period of 3 months, a vote will be taken on weither or not to merge the two organizations. Until that times arises, the OPR MUST consult the PSC on all operations.

Article 1.5
POSITION IN GOVERNMENT

1) The OPR would have advisory status in the government. The OPR would be let in on ALL aspects of military functions because these actions threaten the lives of citizens under the consitituion of Fanakia.

2) Positions in the OPR would be appointed as specified.

(Remove this. Trying to create another Department will doom the whole proposal to failure.) 3) Until the coming of the second term, the OPR would remain a unelected office run by a hired Head Officer by the President of Fanakia and/or subordiants. When the second term arises, the OPR would then become a official department in the state and become under elected operators.
 
This is my feedback on Shaitan's feedback. I don't think enough things have been removed/dealt with.
Stuff I think should be deleted is underlined. Shaitan's italics for change, bold for remove have been left in.

Originally posted by Shaitan
Items I suggested changing are in italics. Items I suggest removing are in bold:

Article 1.1
PRIMARY GOAL:
1) To keep the Fanatikan people well heard with thier opinions, keeping the relationship between the government and the people in good standing.

ROLES AND OBLIGATIONS:
1) Work with judicacy to quickly identify invalid, strange or useless polls.
2) Work towards summarizing poll-results in the poll-index and registry.
3) Notify mods to close threads of outdated polls.
4) Initiate and organize discussion of poll rules and the standards for those rules.
5) Help citizens setup polls when they do not like to or do not know how to accomplish it.
6) Organize and schedule political debates.
7) Advise higher command on how to handle riots or citizen misbehavior.
8) To make sure the government and the people work together to make a better world.

Article 1.2
DUTIES:
1) Invalid, errored, strange, and useless poll detection, closing and deletion.
If a poll is found, he posts in judical thread for poll review. From there on, the judges take over. Eventually, the person holding the position will be able to make the distincion himself if no response is beheld within a week.

2) Issue a bi-monthly report summarizing all polls in that period of time. This report would also contain polls that were closed and/or deleted.

3) To close outdated polls. The Chief would now advise the command to close outdated polls or clear them out of the registry.(Remove this bolded part, it should be in the poll Standards, not part of the position description.) Also, in a period of 15 days after a similar polls closing, Citizen cannot create another poll of the same surface matter relating to the one that came before it.

4) The OPR (Remove this bolded part, this is already posted to the Judiciary thread. the OPR can simply subscribe to that thread.) MUST be advised beforehand on all changes to any law and SHOULD be consulted on poll laws, changes, and discussions.

5) Provide poll assistance for wording, or if the Citizen simply can not/does not have the ability to post a poll.

6) The orgaization of political debates is key to gather opinions from the vast majority of the citizens and could be refered to as NCM's. This event would take place at the beginning of every month. All Citizens are suggested but not required to attend such meetings.

7) The OPR should be notified of all matters of Citizen misbehavior, even how little disputes should be reported and documented for future purposes.

8) The OPR would be consulted and would advise on changes in poll laws, and standards.

Article 1.3
STRUCTURE OF OFFICE OF PUBLIC RELATIONS
Head Officer of Public Relations: Appointed by Chief Justice
Assitant Head Officer of Public Relations: Hired by Head Officer
Head of the Advisory Commission: Hired by Head Officer
Director of Elections: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Polling: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Organization and Issuing: Hired by Head Officer
Political Debate Organizer: Hired by Director of Organization and Issuing

HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (APPOINTED):
1) Would oversee all OPR operations and give final input on all poll operations.

2)(All citizens have this vote already.) Has a vote on all matters concering the state and well being of Fanatikan security.

ASSITANT HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) Assists the HEAD OFFICER on all duties listed above.

HEAD OF ADVISORY COMMISSION (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) The HAC's operations would fall under the jurisdiction of the Justices and is subject to critisim from that department.

2) The HAC would review ALL cases after a period of 30 days after final operation of polls and frequently monitor all polls to ensure the quality of the enviroment when polling.

DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS (HIRED BY CABINET):
(Election poll schedules are set in the Code of Standards.) 1) Organizes and schedules all election polls, and Issues results for those closed.

DIRECTOR OF POLLING (HIRED BY CABINET):
1) Finalizes reports and summaries of reports including public opinion in replies to polls.

DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZATION AND ISSUING (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) Organizes all OPR operations and moderates employees.
2) Organizes ALL political operations, including elections and inagurations.

(you know a department is too big if they need a staff manager. None of the roles here really need to be done by a seperate office, let alone an employed Office Bearer.)

POLITICAL DEBATE ORGANIZER (HIRED BY DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZATION AND ISSUING):
1) Develops political debates for all parties.
2) Moderates all political debates.

(totally unessissary. The Inquisitaors develop debates and the the debate threads could easily be started/moderated by the director of elections.)

REQUIRMENT FOR FILLING ALL POSITIONS: Must be impartial to any and all ethnic (replace with INTREST groups, makes more sence.) groups (We don't have/allow parties.) and political parties to ensure unbaised moderation.

Article 1.4
CHANGES TO EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS

1) The OPR would become somewhat of an official PSC (polling standards commision). The two organizations would work intimately together on all aspects of power allocated to the OPR. After a period of 3 months, a vote will be taken on weither or not to merge the two organizations. Until that times arises, the OPR MUST consult the PSC on all operations.

(this paragraph should be removed entirely. We are creating this office independant of the PSC. It assumes the roles unofficially undertaken by the PS commissioner, but that is all. There is no reason to disband the PSC. If it becomes irrelevant it will just drop of the first forum page. Besisdes, how do you merge a citizen group with an office?)

Article 1.5
POSITION IN GOVERNMENT

1) The OPR would have advisory status in the government. The OPR would be let in on ALL aspects of military functions because these actions threaten the lives of citizens under the consitituion of Fanakia.
(I think this may ge a little to far and over strsses the importance of the role. The millitary department has to let everyone know what they are doing, the PRC office should not get special treatment)

2) Positions in the OPR would be appointed as specified.

(Remove this. Trying to create another Department will doom the whole proposal to failure.) 3) Until the coming of the second term, the OPR would remain a unelected office run by a hired Head Officer by the President of Fanakia and/or subordiants. When the second term arises, the OPR would then become a official department in the state and become under elected operators.

I have tried to cut this back to make it more workable. Two offices at least should be removed. The demogame RPG office has only five positions and requires alot more work.
 
1c
This is what it would look like with all current modifications.

Article 1.1
PRIMARY GOAL:
1) To keep the Fanatikan people well heard with thier opinions, keeping the relationship between the government and the people in good standing.

ROLES AND OBLIGATIONS:
1) Work with judicacy to quickly identify invalid, strange or useless polls.
2) Work towards summarizing poll-results in the poll-index and registry.
3) Notify mods to close threads of outdated polls.
4) Initiate and organize discussion of poll rules and the standards for those rules.
5) Help citizens setup polls when they do not like to or do not know how to accomplish it.
6) Organize and schedule political debates.
7) Advise higher command on how to handle riots or citizen misbehavior.
8) To make sure the government and the people work together to make a better world.

Article 1.2
DUTIES:
1) Invalid, errored, strange, and useless poll detection, closing and deletion.
If a poll is found, he posts in judical thread for poll review. From there on, the judges take over. Eventually, the person holding the position will be able to make the distincion himself if no response is beheld within a week.

2) Issue a bi-monthly report summarizing all polls in that period of time. This report would also contain polls that were closed and/or deleted.

3) To close outdated polls. The Chief would now advise the command to close outdated polls or clear them out of the registry.

4) The OPR should be consulted on poll laws, changes, and discussions.

5) Provide poll assistance for wording, or if the Citizen simply can not/does not have the ability to post a poll.

6) The orgaization of political debates is key to gather opinions from the vast majority of the citizens and could be refered to as NCM's. This event would take place at the beginning of every month. All Citizens are suggested but not required to attend such meetings.

7) The OPR should be notified of all matters of Citizen misbehavior, even how little disputes should be reported and documented for future purposes.

8) The OPR would be consulted and would advise on changes in poll laws, and standards.

Article 1.3
STRUCTURE OF OFFICE OF PUBLIC RELATIONS
Head Officer of Public Relations: Appointed by Chief Justice
Assitant Head Officer of Public Relations: Hired by Head Officer
Head of the Advisory Commission: Hired by Head Officer
Director of Elections: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Polling: Hired by Cabinet
Director of Organization and Issuing: Hired by Head Officer
Political Debate Organizer: Hired by Director of Organization and Issuing

HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (APPOINTED):
1) Would oversee all OPR operations and give final input on all poll operations.

ASSITANT HEAD OFFICER OF PUBLIC RELATIONS (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) Assists the HEAD OFFICER on all duties listed above.

HEAD OF ADVISORY COMMISSION (HIRED BY HEAD OFFICER):
1) The HAC's operations would fall under the jurisdiction of the Justices and is subject to critisim from that department.
2) The HAC would review ALL cases after a period of 30 days after final operation of polls and frequently monitor all polls to ensure the quality of the enviroment when polling.

DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS (HIRED BY CABINET):
1) Issues results for those closed.
2) Moderates all political debates.

DIRECTOR OF POLLING (HIRED BY CABINET):
1) Finalizes reports and summaries of reports including public opinion in replies to polls.


REQUIRMENT FOR FILLING ALL POSITIONS: Must be impartial to any and all interest groups to ensure unbaised moderation.

Article 1.4
POSITION IN GOVERNMENT

1) The OPR would have advisory status in the government.

2) Positions in the OPR would be appointed as specified.



This still needs some work I think.
 
No, I reject that as version 1c of the proposal. You remove to much of the core aspects and jobs in the office.
 
A few thoughts...

First, the judiciary handles all cases of actions that are against our laws. I want to ensure that is clear.

Second, all actions of this group involving the government need to be approved by an elected official.

I would suggest before this goes any further, that all who are working on this read our constitution, CoL, and CoS here.
 
@interjective - I believe Shaitan and AJ were both very skillful with their scalpels. I believe I suggested cutting a large chunk out of your original proposal. These guys are trying to help you.

I realize you are new here, but you can't just show up and buldoze out a section of the Demogame and insert your Department. Can I ask who you are? You seem to have gotten a good amount of your post count in this thread alone. Is this just a new name for you or are you new the the CFC forums? And why won't you accept the help of people here that have held high level government positions in the Demogame?
 
I think cyc has some valid points, especially the fact that we both (me and Shaitan) LIKE this proposal and are trying to get it to a state where it will both be passed and be workable.

Though the input of new players is not to be overlooked, when changing laws there are principals and theories that must first be considered. Basically, many aspects of this proposal before the scalpaling would have required large changes to other parts of the law, been unworkable or superfulous and possibly stopped the motion from passing.

To begin with, a law is best over-written, but it is then up to everyone to delete/add/change parts to make it fit better within the overall construct and to best set out what it needs to do.

Don't take our suggestions as afforts, or even as final. Just advice from people who do this alot! :)
 
The main problem, as I see it, is that is you are trying to create an entire new office. This would better function as a citizen group. I would be adamantly against adding an office that takes government decisions and placed them in the hands of unelected positions.
 
Forget the entire proposal. Just forget the whole thing
 
Hmmmm..... Isnt this a bid overdoing things?

* Just get the office founded by the judicacy (thats why we have offices)
* Just get the head appointed and he can get as many deputies as he likes
* Just put up SIMPLE function for this office (i think the first proposals were ok, but these we have now are FAR too much for an office. The thing is almost as long as the book of laws!).
 
Well, someone else can take the idea and run with it becasue I don't think I need to slave myself to make the proposal exactly so every single person playing the demogame accepts it.
 
You'll never do that. There's always a dissenter...

I do agree that this would work well as an office. If not an office, we can certainly put something in the CoS that gives the Judiciary the authority to declare polls invalid and have them closed.
 
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