New exploit or patch bug?

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I was doing quite well on a monarch game. Then Huayan declared war on me. It makes no sense because I was giving him tones of good deals. Also he was on another continent shared by 2 other civs with different religions and squashing him. Yet he decides to go all out of his way just to declare war on me (I have no idea what logic was behind this dumb move).

But here is the real problem. He wasn't even visible near my shoreline when he declared war. In fact, I hit my end turn, then suddely DING DING DING.. I am told all deals are cut. He waltzes into sight of my shoreline... then waltzes into my waters... then attacks my city WITHOUT EVEN UNLOADING... and razes it.

ALL IN THE SAME TURN???

He didn't even have marines yet, I thought only marines can fight without unloading.

I can't understand how, in one turn, (and before I can even be notified that was has broken out), all this can happen. Surely there is a bug, because if this is allowed, ohhh man is that one HUGE exploit I will be definitely using against the AI.
 
He didn't even have marines yet, I thought only marines can fight without unloading.
Any unit can attack over water, they just get a -50% penalty unless they have the Amphibious promotion. What units were involved? (Both yours and his.) If he attacked with infantry while you still had archers then no wonder you got PWn3d. :cry:

I can't understand how, in one turn, (and before I can even be notified that was has broken out), all this can happen. Surely there is a bug, because if this is allowed, ohhh man is that one HUGE exploit I will be definitely using against the AI.
I've never seen the AI do this in vanilla 1.61 (but then I rarely get attacked by the AI, for some bizarre reason...even when I'm trying to get attacked...it's actually quite annoying!!) but it's always possible for the player to do this, whether you consider it an "exploit" or not. Search "Sirian Doctrine" for more info.
 
If you join someones religion he sees how weak your defenses are and takes an oportunity.
 
This isn't an exploit or bug - it's exploiting opportunity. His decision to go to war had been made several turns prior, not declaring till units were in position.

Nothing wrong with that, you can do it yourself, and lets not forget it's really the only way the AI can damage you in an overseas battle, considering how incompetent it is at it.
 
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