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[Penwa]

i cant believe we used up our leader on the FP, who knows when we will get another chance for a army, oh well. no point moaning about the past.
i agree we head for MT. hopefully we can get the U.S out of the picture soon and nt have to worry about them any more and then spread our empire further into foreign lands.

 

[soul_warrior]

@ penwa

4- 4 cats hit Atlanta. it has 2 red spears and an archer. we get 1 more E MDI. we take it and ABE IS DEAD.

read the small print, mate.
we no longer have an american problem

 

[Perugia]

This is going real slow . It's was hard to get my head round a map, 20 odd cities and our strategy all at once. It took hours just to do the pre-turn and year 1. Ah well I will try and finish tonight - otherwise may pass a few turns but it should be plain sailing now I know what I am doing.

Pre-turn 260AD (0)

we can get Leo's in 14 turns (instead of 17) and the Palace in 41 (instead of 38) if we put a citizen on the other mountain in London. Depends which we want done sooner.

MM London taking a tile each from York and Coventry to get Leonardos in 14. Queue markets in London and York as a reminder there isn't one. Coventry will still build aqueduct when I press enter MM York for growth in 3 as has 3 happy faces from MoM - Palace now in 45.

maybe we should take on joan first?

I disagree with this as we have explored most of Indian territory but hardly any French. I will agree to a RoP with Joan and send some mapmakers there while the bulk of forces prepare an attack on Ghandi. Wake pike and treb in Leeds to explore Indian/French border area between Bescanon and Dehli.

we want to settle that island due E of america. get a settler-pike team over there.

. Which one did you have in mind - the one tiler or the larger one?

We need more commerce and markets to support our troops. A coulple of galleys loaded with musketmen will be good to head for the Indian horses and iron.

Exeter wealth > worker in 4
Cambridge granary > worker in 7
Oxford library > MDI in 1. MM growth down from 8 to 3 turns.
Hastings temple > MDI in 1.
Canterbury barracks > settler and rush for 40g. Settler needed to grab wines near Leeds. MM for growth.
MM Warwick for market in 1
Washington will grow this turn. I set governors in all cities to emphasise production so get shields boost when cities grow - excess food is wasted.

Ferry 2 American slaves that were chopping tundra forest NW of Phili to mainland. We need to keep this forest as none of the BGs around Phili are mined.

Build Embassy in Paris for 46g. Joan has Monarchy, pop6, growth in 1, Temple, Walls and TGW! and Collosseum. The Great Library in 23 @ 12 shelds per turn and a 3 spear garrison. Furs, Gems, Iron & Horses are hooked up. France is in Golden Age. Sell Republic to polite Joan for 5gpt and 67g but hang on to spices. AI is probably stupid enough to enter Anarchy during GA!

IBT Indian galley enters straits.
Discover gunpowder > chemistry in 14. I did this as we seem to be agreed on MT.
Hastings MDI > pike.
Canterbury settler > market, MM for growth in 3.
Coventry aquaduct > market. MM as grows next turn.
Warwick market > MDI
Newcastle MDI > aquaduct
Oxford MDI > library
Dover harbour > galley

270AD (1) Move some workers who just completed jobs near London to Coventry to hook up saltpetre. Rename some galleys to assist in shipping rosters. Galley 2 sets sail fron Canterbury with wine settler and a worker to road it. Worker roads BG near Richmond, assign citizen to work it. Worker heads S to find irrigation water. Join native worker into London to speed Leos from 13 to 11 turns. Upgrade archer to long for 60g. Moved lots of other units towards India.
IBT Forest chop near Nottingham to make way for irrigation completed. Polite Ghandi offers to renew RoP - we respectfully decline .
Indian galley now S of Coventry we can trap it .

To be continued....

 

[soul_warrior]

@ perugia
nice MMing, mate.

the thought about going for Joan is based on some very nasty surprises i keep getting when tyring to go after Ghandi in the MA. those Elephants can be a bother.
its worth checking out though.
maybe we can use Joan as an ally? that would be nice.

about the Eastern islands - i meant the big 10+ tile island. i doubt the 1-tiler will offer anything important, and we can grab it later. but we want it to prevent any one tile cities annoying us there. maybe we could exile ghandi there when the war is over?

 

[Perugia]

Soul_warrior

Ghandi does not even yet have CoL so I think we can severely maul or even eliminate him before he gets Chivalry and those nasty ol' elephants.

Agree about the 10+ tile island - just wanted to check. The city should be in the centre and will act both as a canal and loading dock for our fleet which may help getting units to the other continent when we need to. We can put a warrior on the 1 tiler.

 

[Penwa]

i think we should go against france first. once we have taken over france we will have ample opertunity to conquer india.
we can always explore the french land first before we begin our attack.
time is the rock in which we bore. so be patient and good things will come.

just woken up, and read above me, if india not even technologicaly advanced then lets take them on, but not having seen the game in a while i do not know how far they are towards taming elephants, so before we go to war i would like to know what frances tech rate is, where are they.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

France gets their UU at Gunpowder, if I'm not mistaken, so their closer to Musketeers than India is to Chivalry and War Elephants, so I vote going for India (they're closer too).

And I won't be on until Saturday, so if my turn comes up before then (highly doubt it, but just in case), you can skip me till the weekend.

 

[soul_warrior]

@ PERUGIA - your save please....

@ IroPlisken - im finally conviced that india is the way. tentatively we will declare in 15-20 or so? we should build up a bit more before we do.

maybe we should NOT use joan as an ally? it will weaken us a bit, but she wont get more land. OTH her storming india will weaken her as well.

 

[Perugia]

I have had problems with my browser and had to rid myself of adware and spyware. I have installed a new firewall so should now be OK.

I don't have my notes to hand but will post them later.

Here they are...

280AD (2) Increase commerce in Coventry to prevent rioting. Change 2 MDI orders to Longbowmen as these are better when stacked with pikes/muskets. MM Warwick (size 6 not on river) for zero growth to leave food for adjacent cities. Swap wheat from Nottingham to Dover for growth in 2. Change Leeds barracks to temple. Will build barracks on wine city. Moved more units towards India.

IBT Chop forest near nottingham - shaves a turn off longbow. Spear thrown out of india arrives on French border..

290AD (3) Moved more units towards India.

IBT Nottingham Long>pike. Hastings pike>long. Exeter worker>worker.

300AD (4) Sell RoP to Joan for 22g. Found Gloucester on wines > barracks. Increase science slider to 60% to get Chemistry in 9 (was 10). Gold drops to +12.

IBT Workers connect saltpetre . Warwick long>MDI.

310AD (5) Upgrade 2 pikes in Coventry to Musketmen at a cost of 180g, need these quickly to load on galley for trip to Southern India. Have allocated another pike to sit just outside indian border ready to head for their iron mountain. Both these stacks should be supported with longbows. Will delay other upgrades until we get Leos. Worker on Reading island is not productive so load on galley. Do some MM around Warwick & Dover to maximise production. Mm Liverpool for an extra beaker will still complete Library in 2.

IBT Brighton Trebuchet > Marketplace - need to send workers here to chop to spped this up and get some more food to allow hills to be used.

320AD (6) Hurry settler in Washington to load on galley ready to ship to 10 tile island. Mm for growth. Nottingham now at size 6 so shift wheat to Dover for growth and galley in 4. Sell writing to backward Ottomans for a measly 12g, all they had - but we can now trade them 5 techs. Maybe we should build a embassy and get a military alliance on far continent to keep Ai busy.

IBT Washinton settler>granary and Liverpool>harbour both needed for growth. Cambridge worker>worker.

330AD (7) Troops now in position to attack India with most of the army now shipped over to india. Reduce sci to 50%. Chemistry in 7. MM London for immediate growth.

The main force is gathered in the East and positioned to advance on Hyderabad from Leeds and Gloucester. It consists of 7MDI, 1 pike, 1 long, 5 cats, 1 treb and 2 extra MDIs in galleys.

A slightly smaller Western force consisting of 4MDI, 1 long and 1 treb is gathered near Jaipur.

IBT Indian galley starts to head back home. Exeter worker>market.

340AD (8) We boldly DoW on Ghandi. Move Western SoD to hill N of Jaipur while main force of 6MDIs, 3 cats and 2 trebs envelop Hyderabad. Reserves stay in Gloucester. Oxford Library > Musketman as indian galley is nearby. London production can now be MM for 20, left at 19 for Leo in 4.
Military advisor says France military is same size as us. Joan allies with us for spices, engineering and gives us 37g for the privilege.

Battle near Hyderabad MDI 5/5 > Warrior 4/4 > MDI 5/5.

IBT Indian and French workers run for cover. Nottingham MDI > Musket. Oxford Musket > Library. The French are building Sun Tzu's.

350AD (9)

Battle of Hyderabad
2 Trebs and 2 Cats redline 2 spears. Archer pops up last cat misses.
MDI 5/5 > Archer 3/3 > MDI 4/5 (hp lost to defensive shot)
MDI 5/5 > Spear 1/3 > MDI 5/5
MDI 5/5 > Spear 1/3 > MDI 5/5 Capture Hyderabad and a slave - 2 resistors make a scientist .

Battle of Jaipur
Treb attack successful.
MDI 5/5 > Spear 3/3 > MDI 4/5* + MGL Boudicea . There is another 5/5* from our FP leader waiting in Leeds. I suggest these two join army send galley 5 to Leeds to pick him up. This will fit in a caravel.
MDI 4/4 > Spear 3/3 > MDI 2/4
Long 4/4 > Spear 2/3 > Long 4/4 Capture Jaipur, 2 slaves and a settler - 5 resistors.

IBT Indian sword redlined killing our pike heading for their iron. Hastings musket>musket. Dover galley>galley. Quell 3 resistor in Jaipur, it riots.

360AD (10) Build army but don't load to allow Elite* MDi to heal. MDI near Karachi retreats across river. Found Manchester > warrior for 1 tiler.

To summarise - Two cities were taken on the second turn of fighting and straight away we got a leader . I used this to rush an army at Jaipur and put one of the two elite* MDIs in it the other is on its way in a galley. With 10HPs this army should be able to take out any pike defender and still be shippable on a caravel. If we load another unit will need a galleon to ship it.

There are two fully loaded galleys heading to South India carrying a defensive diversionary raiding party of 2 muskets, one MDI and a Trebuchet. This will allow us to monitor the French attack and maybe capture any easy pickings, perhaps take out the Indian horses if need be. Main priority for them is not to get killed - by retreating into France or reloading on the galleys when the muskets get damaged. The idea is to confuse Ghandi so his swords don't all attack our main force in one go.

We took no losses in capturing the two cities as defenders so far has been only spears and archers. But Ghandi has sent out a spare sword which managed to kill one of our pikes.

Note the riot in Jaipur and there is still some resistance in both cities. We need to be careful of flips I have moved the better units, army and captured workers outside of the cities. There are some workers near Hyderabad so we can road the desert to connect it to London quickly a slave has started this just south of the oasis.

There is an Indian galley near America but it has been around for some time so I think there is a settler on board. Some of the trebuchets under construction can deal with it if rushed. I have occupied the 10 tile island and set it to build warrior scouts. These can be rushed as and when needed.

Leos will complete in 2 turns and London can be managed to 20 shields per turn. Gloucester wines will soon be connected - desperately needed in Hastings.

The save is attached and you can also attach the images to the post instead of uploading them. But if you do, how do you display them?

 

[soul_warrior]

nice turns PERUGIA

 

[Penwa]

righty ho shamis got the save on it now chaps.

 

[Penwa]

right well heres my turns so far.

(0)360 nothing other than changing warwick to grow and getting rid of 1 shield should grow in 5 turns

(1)370- it may be that i came to power or it may be the war either way the population of england took to the streets in demonstrations and riots, the following are cities under siege by riots:
London
hasting
Coventry
Oxford
Nottingham
Birmingham

after some making some choice of what to sacrafice in order to restore order i continue on the war effort.
'strong Medival infantry loads into army
'killed warrior north of jaipur, no damage substained.
'bombard west japiur
'move soldiers towards calcutta and karachi
'naval battle outside of atlanta no damage to our vessel
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trade route established between gloucester and the mainladn
'reinforcements from England arrive at japiur more being prepared on the home country.

(2)-380 Indian troops move near calcutta looks like their going to attack. so i deal with them.
' enemy troops killed near calcutta, english casualities taken and pikemen lost their bodies will bless the indians land with english glory.
peacetreety requested by the indians, after much negotiating no real solution could be found to the war, and so we march onwards,

(3)-390 coventry builds marketplace
trade route to coventry established
germany building sun tzu in 27 turns

(4)-400 forces moved outside of calcutta bangalore captured
iron source destroyed
army moved to chittgang

(5) chittang was captured by our glorious forces. they then moce on to calcutta and capture that with a roar of happiness a day of celebration is declared in the city of calcutta.
great libary built in york

(6)army needs rest in calcutta
supply route being built
small troops begin attack on bangai
southern troops attacke but win badly hurt.
kolhaper under french attack(think i spelt it correctly

(7)-430 galley keeping an eye on french in south.
troops rest and send mail home. bengai under attack now

(8)-440forces attack bengai and karachi india have no more iron supplies unless trade.

(9)-450 bengai forces destroyed joins the english empire. attacks on karachi begin and then invaded. thats now ours.

(10)-460 need supply route thought i had but i guess not. china threatens me with a tiger that want invention i tell them where to stick it. soldiers need rest before march onwards.

well thats that. i sugest we wait till we attack their capital since i saw some troops head there out of the fog. so please listen to me and dont go and attack their capital.
so next person might be able to finish the war

 

[Perugia]

Good work Penwa.

(1)370- it may be that i came to power or it may be the war either way the population of england took to the streets in demonstrations and riots, the following are cities under siege by riots:
London
hasting
Coventry
Oxford
Nottingham
Birmingham

after some making some choice of what to sacrafice in order to restore order i continue on the war effort.

I lost a pikeman in my turn so must have been that which led to a bit of war weariness.

I have edited my post.

 

[Penwa]

well the riots were not much of a bother, editor note london is now building heroic epic. i also noticed that it says turns so far well ignore that its a bunch of so and so.
i do use the lux slide but here i didn't i wanted the money to build barracks and have musketmen guard the the towns. theres only a small part of the indian territory left so hopefully we will be able to take them out soon, but with the way i left it as long as we dont head straight for the capital we will be able to move along anti clockwise and then finally destroy the capital of india

 

[soul_warrior]

6 city riots can only mean the people dont like war. the fools!!
give them a travelling minstrel once in a while and theyll be ok.
did you check the lux slide situation? do you use it? you really should, especially in times of war.
otherwise
hope you leave me some injun staek, but id rather have lots of french cheese and wine

 

[Penwa]

oh and evin car is up next.

 

[Perugia]

hope you leave me some injun staek, but id rather have lots of french cheese and wine

Yeah - and have the wine and cheese by candlelight and failing that by Great Lighthouse light. Have some of that . RoP and other deals with Joaney should expire just in time.....

 

[Evincar]

I am up? :O Ok, ok, taking it, but I will probably not have it till tomorrow night.

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

Evincar, don't worry, I won't be able to play till Saturday anway, so take your time during your turns. No need to rush. Sounds like it's going well, and we haven't had many casualties.

 

[Evincar]

Sorry for the delay, guys, but anyway here are the turns

460 D.c (0): Took a look around. Boston->courthouse in an attemp to fight off corruption. Looks like we are kinda broken. Some cities MMed to avoid disorder, Warwick MMed to improve production since it can't grow anyway. As impopular as this usually is, I put a 10% lux. Metalurgy now in 6, but +68gpt. Aqueduct in oxford, Dover MMed to speed up growth, barraxk still in 2. Norwich to harbor as it's apparently the only way to grow.
IBT: Germany declares war on china!! . Great news as they can be, they are the 2 most powerful nations in the other country! Hasting musket->musket

470 D.C (1): Not much, troops moved here and there. I realized we are quite weak culture-wise, so I guess we MUST be careful with flips.

IBT: India moves an archer and a warrior to retake karachi.

480 D.C (2): Canterbury market->aqueduct Coventry MDI->Library Dover Barrack->MDI. Army kills 2 spears at lahore, loses 1 HP, still more. Archer, warrior and sword killed. SoD moved to Delhi

IBT: 2 archers killed atacking MDI, one promotes to elite. French and Indian fight, I think 2 french and 1 indian unit died

490 (3): N.Y falls into disorder, fool of me. Newcastle Harbor-> Courthouse. Brighton Market->treb. Army kills 2 spears and takes lahore. Unfortunately, WW kicks in, enforcing me to set Lux @ 20%. SoD now next to delhi.
IBT: French distract the indians

500(4): Atlanta Harbor->courthouse. N.Y. Is buggy. Even though I checked last turn and it wouldn't go into disorder, it goes. WTH?. Oh well, never mind. Delhi is attacked. Even though half the trebs fail, 4 defending spearmen are defeated, and Delhi is ours, along with its FURS!! (at the cost of an Elite). Unsurprisingly, 100% of the population resist. Our army rests, Madras is now in the Agenda.
IBT: RoP with france expires. Since it's no longer of use, it dies.

510 (5): Warwick musket->aqueduct. Liverpool temple->treb. Norwich Harbor->Aqueduct (it only gets 1 shield anyway). Metalurgy next turn, reduced science to get +159. Troops moved from Bangalore and Lahore to Madras

520 (6): Got metallurgy. Military Tradition in 10 @+1 gpt. York market->library. Karachi is finally quelled. Our troops go right next to Madras.

530 (7): Despite miserable bombardment, Madras is captured, 2 victorious elites. The remaining of our guys head to Bombay . Code of laws to Osman for 8 gold

IBT: Delhi deposes!! 3 units are vanished into thin air!!. France conquers Kolhapur

540 (8): London Heroic Epic->Library. Hasting MDI. Dover MDI->MDI. Army moved towards Delhi to return it to its "natural state". MDI SoD moved to Bombay. Jungle prevents Trebs from reaching it, so expect a bloody battle!

IBT: Alliance with Joan conveniently expires .

550 (9): Coventry Library->musket. Brighton Cannon->Library. Chittagong harbor->Library. Army retakes Delhi, 10000 civilians are executed guilty of treason . Despite lack of bombardment, Bombay is also taken Without breaking a sweat. President Evincar III claims the end of the indian culture and summarialy executes Ghandi . Finally, we have horses.
The end of the war results in lux back to 10%, and a complete MM round to fire clowns and scientists. Jaipur changes its harbor to a library, more useful IMO. Reading and Gloucester rush temple, due to cultural war with French. quite a few horsemen are started, the idea is obvious: build some of them, Upgrade when we get MT, and kick some butt!. 2 workers are sent to the galleys as our new lands need a lot of work.

560 (10): Liverpool cannon->aqueduct. Reading temple->aqueduct, Gloucester temple->horseman. Delhi is quelled, starts cannon. Land improvements everywhere, the new territories need all roads we can get. France now has invention, expect them to be about 10 turns away from gunpowder. A bunch of treb is moved to upgrade. There are a lot of corrupt cities, we may want to rush some stuff, let's look and decide

One point: Madras needs troops to further quelling, even though I moved the army there