new game (No Mods)

Quick ideas:

- We have excellent research now, and with the incoming libraries in York and London, it will be empowered even further.

- Excepting the Northern part, the new cities seem to be horribly corrupt, but don't forget we can still get cannons from them!

- Next step seems to invade France, but be careful. Joan has the Great Wall, and even pikes will prove to be a challenge. It is not going to be an easy conquest, we need to bombard them to hell (i.e: 1 HP). AFAICT, she only has 1 Saltpeter supply, and severing it should be a piece of cake.

- Research on cavalry should be halted when we are close to finish for a few turns. The idea is clear: Build/rush some horsemen, mass upgrade, own!.

- Once Joan is dead, no point in even thinking about conquests till, at least, galleons. I EXPECT Germany and China to be horribly backwards when we attack them, but they are just too far away to invade them with 3 guys transports. Also, let's just grab late MA wonder :D.
 
Evincar said:
- Next step seems to invade France, but be careful. Joan has the Great Wall, and even pikes will prove to be a challenge. It is not going to be an easy conquest, we need to bombard them to hell (i.e: 1 HP). AFAICT, she only has 1 Saltpeter supply, and severing it should be a piece of cake.
lurker's comment: If you attack any cities with walls (ie size 6 or less), you will destroy improvements and wonders in the city before harming the defenders (until you capture or destroy the Great Wall), unless France happens to research metallurgy.
 
Pre-turn – Send one MDI down from Karachi to scout out Joan’s seemingly only Saltpetre. Joan has Monotheism, but I’d rather not give her Gunpowder. Send a Treb in Chittagong towards Calcutta to upgrade. Turn research down to 50%, get +53 gpt now (was 23). Rush a Harbor in Manchester for 84 gold, as well as changing one citizen to a Taxman. Rush Barracks in Hyderabad and Leeds for 60 and 84 gold, respectively (these are near French cities, so I like to get some units here). Move a galley south of Washington w/Treb that was fortified for some reason…

570 (1) – Washington Granary->Courhouse. Resistance in Madras has ended…so much for needing more units there…Hastings Horse->Horse. Hyderabad Barracks->Horse. Leeds Barracks->Musket. Manchester Harbor->Galley (…sorry, forgot we can’t connect this city until we get a better tech…). Upgrade 6 Trebs for 90 gold.
The plan of attack on France will be to go straight for the capital, so we can get rid of their Great Wall advantage. So, Kolhapur->Orleans->Paris is the order I’m looking at. I’m also planning on sending smaller groups with Cannon support for Rouen and Bescanon. Up Lux to 10% to prevent riots.

IBT – Germans request RoP and Alliance vs. Chinese. Offer him RoP if he gives us 3 gold, and he accepts…whatever.

580 (2) – London Library->Marketplace (so THAT’s why it has happiness problems). York Library->Barracks (can produce all units in 4 turns or less. Horses in 2). Nottingham Aque->Horse. Lahore Worker->Worker. Oxford Aque->Horse.
Spot Saltpetre, and there’s no road on it yet, so when they get Gunpowder, they’ll still need to hook it up. Everything looks good for the war, just waiting for cannons to arrive at the main SoD.

590 (3) – Dover Horse->Aque. Richmond Cannon->Harbor (due in 15 turns though, so next person can change it). Nothing else really, just preparing for the war. Move research down to 40%, +109 gpt. Due in 2, so next turn I’ll turn off research for a few turns to build up some gold.

IBT – Lots of Cultural expansions. Ottomans are building Sun Tzu’s.

600 (4) – Philly Musket->cannon. Hastings Horse->MDI. Coventry Musket->Horse. Again, not much except moving troops. Cannons have all arrived at the SoD, so once MT comes, it’s war. Joan won’t give us Monotheism for anything less than Gunpowder and 109 gold…I think she’s about to get Gunpowder. :(

IBT – Germans have completed Sun Tzu’s.

610 (5) – York Barracks->Horse. Warwick Aque->Horse. Newcastle Court->Horse. Oxford Horse->Market. Again, just moving forces. Upgrade 3 cats for 90 gold.

620 (6) – Nottingham Horse->Market. Upgrade another treb for 15 gold. Move research to 40%, MT next turn, +104 gpt.

630 (7) – MT->Monotheism (actually, the only thing we can research), due in 5 turns. We can now build the Military Academy. London Market->Cav. Lahore worker->worker. Brighton Lib->Court. Upgrade 5 Horses to Cavs for 375 gold. Next turn we declare on France. Move research to 40% to get Monotheism in 4 turns, +60 gpt.

640 (8) – Hastings MDI->Cav. Canterbury Aque->Cannon. Exeter Market->Harbor (next person can change it). China now has Gunpowder. Rush Barracks in Bombay so we can get some Cav down there. We are stronger than the French, but they won’t give us Monotheism for nothing (darn. ;)), But they will give us 15 gold. I declare anyway.

Bombard MDI right outside Bombay, and kill it with Elite MDI, lose no hp, but don’t get a leader. In our SoD: 1 Army, 3 Cannons (with 7 more coming soon), 1 Treb, 7 MDI (3 Elite, and more coming soon), 2 Longbowman, and a Musket. I’m also working on getting some Cavs there. Use the Army to attack an Elite MDI in Kolhapur, and lose 1 hp. Also move a Cav and a Cannon to the French 2-tile-island city of Grenoble.

IBT – One Reg MDI kills an Elite (I think) MDI that was chasing after the main group. Another attacks the stack moving towards Bescanon, dies, doing 2 hp to our Musket. Another attacks, and kills one of our Cavs, redlining itself.

650 (9) – New York Bombay Barracks->Cav. Attack the redlined MDI outside of Bescanon, losing no hp.

Attack on Kolhapur: 0 of the 3 cannons hit, and neither does the Treb. Attack the Reg MDI that killed ours, and win, but lose 3 hp (it was Elite). Attack Kohlapur with Army, lose 1 hp, and a reg Pike (unfortified) is showing. Decide to go for it. The Army attacks again, loses 2 hp, but wins, capturing the city (all citizens are happy, too)! We capture a French and Indian worker. We also get our 5th Iron.

Our 1 Cannon hits a spear at Grenoble, but there’s another unfortified one. Our Cav still wins, undamaged.

IBT – A Longbow attacks our Bescanon stack, and dies doing no damage. Lots of units come after our MDI that was keeping watch over France’s Saltpetre. And…2 MDIs get dropped off next to the unguarded Bombay. Thucydides also names us the Happiest Nation in the World, followed by the Russians, French, Chinese, Germans, Ottomans.

660 (10) – Thankfully, I can move some Muskets and MDI to protect Bombay. Grenoble is captured, with 0 hp loss for the cav (we also destroy a galley).

Bombard Bescanon, destroying its Barracks. Nothing else, so hold off attack.

March troops (except healing army) towards Orleans. Next turn it will need to hold off 4 attacks, but one is from across a river, and it will have cannon and Longbow support. Watch out for those MDIs by Bombay, they will probably go for the spices. You may want to move a unit there to defend.

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i dont know if i read all that correctly because i ill and not in mood to read much but did joan de arc declare war on us?
 
Penwa said:
i dont know if i read all that correctly because i ill and not in mood to read much but did joan de arc declare war on us?

Oh, whoops, that's supposed to have read "I declare anyway", not "J Declare anyway"... :blush:
 
Sorry for the double post, but soul_warrior, you do realize you're up, don't you?

penwa
evincar
iroquoisplisken - Just went
Soul_warrior - Up now
perugia - On deck
 
Oh, I see.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound rude, it's just that you posted after my turns but didn't post a got it or anything. :blush:
 
Congrats to Evincar on finishing off the Indians :D .

Nice start on France IroquoisPlisken. It will be hard, but do your best soul_warrior. Use overwhelming force. Don't be afraid to retreat where necesarry until you have dealt with Joans roaming MDIs.

Evincar said:
- Research on cavalry should be halted when we are close to finish for a few turns. The idea is clear: Build/rush some horsemen, mass upgrade, own!.
Well we now have cavalry. But we can pillage our own horses, build horsemen and then reconnect and mass upgrade the horsemen to cavalry. If we run short of muskets we can do the same with saltpetre.

Evincar said:
- Once Joan is dead, no point in even thinking about conquests till, at least, galleons. I EXPECT Germany and China to be horribly backwards when we attack them, but they are just too far away to invade them with 3 guys transports. Also, let's just grab late MA wonder :D.
We hae stopped exploring guys! :( Can we get a ship load of warriors, or better horses or even cavalry over to the other continent to scout it out before France is dead. When they get there we can RoP with the other civs and from position of cartographic knowledge can decide who the next target is :mad:.
 
The plan of attack on France will be to go straight for the capital, so we can get rid of their Great Wall advantage. So, Kolhapur->Orleans->Paris is the order I’m looking at.
I agree.

IMHO only one musket in the SoD is a bit light even with longbow and cannon support. I'm afraid we will lose. Are there any spare muskets to follow through on the Kolhapur->Orleans->Paris axis to draw French attacks and support the SoD.

I maybe wrong here - AFAIR the AI is reluctant to attack an army if it doesn't think it will win so the SoD maybe OK when the army is healed up and catches up with its extra mp.
 
Perugia said:
IMHO only one musket in the SoD is a bit light even with longbow and cannon support. I'm afraid we will lose. Are there any spare muskets to follow through on the Kolhapur->Orleans->Paris axis to draw French attacks and support the SoD.

Yeah, I was worried about that too. There may be one musket in Kolhapur, but if not, the army still has most of its hp, and I just fortified him, so you can use that too, soul_warrior.

We hae stopped exploring guys! Can we get a ship load of warriors, or better horses or even cavalry over to the other continent to scout it out before France is dead. When they get there we can RoP with the other civs and from position of cartographic knowledge can decide who the next target is .

I agree. You know what we could do? We could rush a galley and a Horseman in Manchester, since it is the closest to the other continent.
 
we could go explore and im all for it, it wil help us in our domination of the planet. but we will need to sign a ROP first other wise we will get alot of peoples backs up and at the moment they dont seem to have a clue that were taking over the world.
there also seems to be a huge chunk of land southwards thats we cant see, now i cant remeber when i typed in the map settings how many Ai there are but me thinks there is land down there somewhere with people.
 
Penwa said:
we could go explore and im all for it, it wil help us in our domination of the planet. but we will need to sign a ROP first other wise we will get alot of peoples backs up and at the moment they dont seem to have a clue that were taking over the world.
For the record, I already said we should sign RoPs, you must have missed that. That's 3 of us agreed on more exploring. How about you two Evincar and Soul_warrior......

Penwa said:
there also seems to be a huge chunk of land southwards thats we cant see, now i cant remeber when i typed in the map settings how many Ai there are but me thinks there is land down there somewhere with people.
I suggest someone presses F10 - Spaceship view. AFAIR that lists the names of all the other civs :eek: even when our civ is still in the stome age. Or is that spoiler info and not allowed - I don't think it should be as this is a 'no mods' game. What do you guys say....
 
no me not thinks we should do that because therer may well be someone down there alone still.
 
hi mates, sorry for not posting, buut got some RL issues right now.
i might be able to play tommorow (wendesday) night,
but would rather be skipped if possible, as i fear work will keep me from true happiness atleast till friday.
 
Perugia said:
I suggest someone presses F10 - Spaceship view. AFAIR that lists the names of all the other civs even when our civ is still in the stome age. Or is that spoiler info and not allowed - I don't think it should be as this is a 'no mods' game. What do you guys say....

Well, that can be you, since you're up now, I guess. :)

You can also go to the Espionage Screen, and while it won't tell you WHO is left, it will tell you how many are left.
 
The skip should work out fine. I can play wednesday & thursday nights then soul_warrior can play from Friday once weekend happiness kicks in.

penwa
evincar
iroquoisplisken - Just went
soul_warrior - skipped
perugia - Up now
soul_warrior - On deck

I won't F10, don't want to upset anyone on the team and as soul_warrior said it really is a cheat. F10 shouldn't work until the Modern Age.

The Espionage screen should be OK as we need to go there to build Embassies and it only gives the number of civs.
 
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