Tobiyogi
King
After having recently played two AW forum games with an AGG leader, I have developed a kind of "strategy" that I am actually wondering of if it is transmittable to a regular non-isolation game (at least on IMM it should work).
The cornerstones are as followed:
We start with an AGG leader and our capitol must sit on a plains hill. In the recent Alex AW game, it is even a PH with stone, which means 3
from the very beginning.
We start on growing on a barracks, ideally there is a 3
tile to work, so 2 pop after 8T, while the barracks is almost finished (as it costs only 25 it takes 9T to finish). We can alternatively grow on a 21 tile in 11 turns and finish the barracks in 9T as well, the PH start assumed.
The ideal position would actually be this one from the forum AW game, but it can work in any PH starting location.
Also, I go Mining/BW first while growing to size 2 and not AGRI/AH/Fishing etc....
All of this seems very counter-intuitive compared to the usual strategy of building worker first and researching the food techs.
The idea is: With the finished barracks, we should more or less be at size 2 already and now we produce a couple of AGG warriors. With a bit of OF and tile swapping, it should be possible to build them in 2T each without starving back. It will probably take 7T for 3 of them. Depending on how long it takes to finish BW, I would start on my first worker only when this tech is already in sight so we can 1-pop the worker. If other Civs are very far, we will have to build our own worker anyway. If you see foreign borders very soon, you can wait on that and perhaps start on a work boat or Stonehenge (depending on starting techs).
In the meantime, the AGG warriors are deploying and they go on the hunt of scouts. We have already 3XP points and with 1 or 2 kills, we are at Woodsman II. It is really easy. AI has 2 scouts on higher levels and when you kill one, they reproduce another one immediately. We can declare on others at any time because having WM II, no need to surprise a worker who is improving a tile on the edge of the border.
The idea is to get lots of workers, while BW is coming in and they will chop you anything you need. The second thought is to hit an unpleasant opponent very early. I would NOT hit Mansa (because he will even attack you in the forest with Skirmishers) and you kill his trade potential when you choke him too much. But especially a warmonger, other bad techers or simply someone who is more of a burden than of use can be targeted. It is probably a worthwhile strategy for the famous NC 215 with Babylon (you will know why when you have played it).
I know it depends a lot on who is on the map, can the workers travel back in time and safely, is the foreign capitol forested enough....
The big plus is: with 3-4 warriors at WM II, you really dominate the early map. You can accompany workers back to "homeland", you fogbust like a pro, you can choke someone to zero development if you want to do so.
More advantages: Barracks already finished, using AGG trait very early, knowing where copper is very early in the game, having not only WMII but also Combat 1. Even WM III is not out of the reach (healing unit).
The possible downside: Too long neglecting of power tiles like a wet corn. Sure, if we conquer 3-4 workers, we can focus all our resources on 3 settlers and won't need any worker builds for quite a while. If we fail though, it could backfire.
Maybe I am also too much influenced by AW games where you are at war anyway and in a regular game, a DoW just for a couple of workers is not really worth it.
What do you think about it?
The cornerstones are as followed:
We start with an AGG leader and our capitol must sit on a plains hill. In the recent Alex AW game, it is even a PH with stone, which means 3
from the very beginning.We start on growing on a barracks, ideally there is a 3
tile to work, so 2 pop after 8T, while the barracks is almost finished (as it costs only 25 it takes 9T to finish). We can alternatively grow on a 21 tile in 11 turns and finish the barracks in 9T as well, the PH start assumed.The ideal position would actually be this one from the forum AW game, but it can work in any PH starting location.
Spoiler Starting screen Alex :
Also, I go Mining/BW first while growing to size 2 and not AGRI/AH/Fishing etc....
All of this seems very counter-intuitive compared to the usual strategy of building worker first and researching the food techs.
The idea is: With the finished barracks, we should more or less be at size 2 already and now we produce a couple of AGG warriors. With a bit of OF and tile swapping, it should be possible to build them in 2T each without starving back. It will probably take 7T for 3 of them. Depending on how long it takes to finish BW, I would start on my first worker only when this tech is already in sight so we can 1-pop the worker. If other Civs are very far, we will have to build our own worker anyway. If you see foreign borders very soon, you can wait on that and perhaps start on a work boat or Stonehenge (depending on starting techs).
In the meantime, the AGG warriors are deploying and they go on the hunt of scouts. We have already 3XP points and with 1 or 2 kills, we are at Woodsman II. It is really easy. AI has 2 scouts on higher levels and when you kill one, they reproduce another one immediately. We can declare on others at any time because having WM II, no need to surprise a worker who is improving a tile on the edge of the border.
The idea is to get lots of workers, while BW is coming in and they will chop you anything you need. The second thought is to hit an unpleasant opponent very early. I would NOT hit Mansa (because he will even attack you in the forest with Skirmishers) and you kill his trade potential when you choke him too much. But especially a warmonger, other bad techers or simply someone who is more of a burden than of use can be targeted. It is probably a worthwhile strategy for the famous NC 215 with Babylon (you will know why when you have played it).
Spoiler NC 215 :
I know it depends a lot on who is on the map, can the workers travel back in time and safely, is the foreign capitol forested enough....
The big plus is: with 3-4 warriors at WM II, you really dominate the early map. You can accompany workers back to "homeland", you fogbust like a pro, you can choke someone to zero development if you want to do so.
More advantages: Barracks already finished, using AGG trait very early, knowing where copper is very early in the game, having not only WMII but also Combat 1. Even WM III is not out of the reach (healing unit).
The possible downside: Too long neglecting of power tiles like a wet corn. Sure, if we conquer 3-4 workers, we can focus all our resources on 3 settlers and won't need any worker builds for quite a while. If we fail though, it could backfire.
Maybe I am also too much influenced by AW games where you are at war anyway and in a regular game, a DoW just for a couple of workers is not really worth it.
What do you think about it?
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not only 100% but even 150%! Iirc, stalin is even the only AGG leader starting with mining...if copper should be nearby this could even turn out into a crushing desaster for some AI 
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