New Laptop Advice

thomas.berubeg

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Hello,

well, i've finally managed to restrain myself from the temptation to spend, spend, spend all of my money long enough for it to accumulate to a sizeable $1000 US, and, as that was the amount i had decided i wanted to have before buying a laptop for college next year. This laptop will be used for College stuff as well some gameing (CIV, Sins of a Solar Empire.)

I'm Hesitating between:

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0303562

A Dell Vostro 1710
$974

Spoiler :
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Business Bonus-Windows XP Professional downgrade
PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE No Productivity Software
WARRANTY & SERVICE 1 Year Basic Limited Warranty and 1 Year NBD On-Site Service
LCD PANEL 17.0 inch Widescreen WXGA+ LCD Anti-Glare Display
MEMORY 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
OPTICAL DRIVE 8X DVD+/-RW with double-layer DVD+/-R write capability, with Roxio Creator
VIDEO CARD 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8600M GS (128 bit)
HARD DRIVE 320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
WI-FI WIRELESS CARD Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Wi-Fi Internal Card
WEBCAM No Webcam, No Digital Camera Microphone Option
FINGERPRINT READER No UPEK® Fingerprint Reader


Or

a Dell Studio 17
$999
Spoiler :

SYSTEM COLOR Jet Black
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5900 (2.20GHz/800Mhz FSB/1MB cache)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition SP1 edit
OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft Works
WARRANTY AND SERVICE 2Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support
HD DISPLAY Glossy widescreen 17.0 inch display (1440x900)
MEMORY 3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 800MHz
HARD DRIVE Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
VIDEO CARD 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
OPTICAL DRIVE 8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
WIRELESS NETWORK CARDS Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Half Mini-Card
INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
BATTERY OPTIONS 56 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (6 cell)
SOUND OPTIONS High Definition Audio 2.0
KEYBOARD Standard Keyboard (included in the price)


Any help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

thomas
 
The second one is definitely nicer. They have very comparable specs, but the studio has a faster CPU which is a definite bonus, especially for only 20$ more. Everything else is basically the same ( save for the OS differences ) so if ythose are your only two choices, you might as well choose based on which one looks better.
EDIT- by second one I meant the second dell. The Pavilion kinda sucks.

Also, if you're gonna get a notebook, save yourself some money, and get the smallest HDD and RAM you can and buy those separately. You're gonna end up saving around 50$.
 
The Studio 17 is definitely the most powerful. The Pavilion has the weakest GPU by a good margin, and the weakest CPU (right now, AMD is slower than Intel at the same clock speed). The Vostro falls short of the Studio on both graphics, processor, and warranty for just $25, and even though it's listed in the business section, it's really the same as the Inspiron - less heavy-duty than the Studio. The only leg up it has it the XP downgrade, if you want to run XP.

stickciv's right about memory/hard drive. Both are very cheap right now, and you're best off buying the laptop with the cheapest you can get and replacing it yourself. Most of the time the cost of upgrading a retail notebook's hard drive or memory from the company (Dell/HP) is more expensive than buying the best laptop hard drive/memory available.
 
Personally I have a Dell Studio 17 (higher model than yours - 4GB of ram and T8300 Processor (2.4Ghz, 6MB Cache)) and its runs great for me.

The one problem is the mobile version of the ATI HD3650 (or at least mine) can't anti-alias. Any game with hardware rendering AND anti-aliasing on, grinds to a halt. Normally this is fine, I just have to turn anti-aliasing off but it might annoy you. Everything else I've tried runs on all high settings so far.

Also if your getting the Studio 17, buy the dual 250GB hard drives, when I was getting it, it cost €20 to go from default 250GB to 320GB or €5 to go from 250GB to 2x 250GB. This might have changed since so double check however,

 
Personally I have a Dell Studio 17 (higher model than yours - 4GB of ram and T8300 Processor (2.4Ghz, 6MB Cache)) and its runs great for me.

The one problem is the mobile version of the ATI HD3650 (or at least mine) can't anti-alias. Any game with hardware rendering AND anti-aliasing on, grinds to a halt. Normally this is fine, I just have to turn anti-aliasing off but it might annoy you. Everything else I've tried runs on all high settings so far.

Also if your getting the Studio 17, buy the dual 250GB hard drives, when I was getting it, it cost €20 to go from default 250GB to 320GB or €5 to go from 250GB to 2x 250GB. This might have changed since so double check however,

Most mobile GPu's dont have enough power to really Anti-Alias
 
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