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New patch 20 December

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by comatosedragon, Dec 20, 2016.

  1. Human Crouton

    Human Crouton Prince

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    No, I'm talking about the grey messages that pop up at the start of every turn that are a result of gossip and espionage. Things like "China has traded with America", "Russia has cleared a barbarian camp".
     
  2. isau

    isau Deity

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    I did some testing on the culture bomb. Looks like it can't extend beyond 3 tiles from the city center. So the ability is pretty good, but not nearly as crazy as it was in previous Civ games. Notice how in the screenshot below the encampment only grabs tiles to the left and right, not the 3 tiles that are 4 tiles from the city center.

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    On the data side, screenshot below of the sql shows where they appear to have inserted the values. Took me a little while to find by tracing back through the chain of traits/modifiers/arguments.

    Based on this it appears when a person gets Culture Bombed you get a -10 penalty to relations. Pretty expected I suppose.

    What is kind of cool about this is the way they constructed it with arguments means we might be able to mod in culture bombs to some of the extremely lackluster unique improvements. If nothing else looks easily fixable if fort-bombs are overpowered. I have yet to try a fort, just the encampment.

    Spoiler :
    upload_2016-12-20_20-27-28.png
     
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  3. Thorburne

    Thorburne Centurion

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    I'm glad to see a new patch... But they still haven't fixed the production problems. Starting the colossus as soon as I unlock it and not finishing until the late medieval to Renaissance era is terrible and new cities taking forever to get established with long build times is horrendous.

    Also, still no SDK or world builder...
     
  4. RoFortaleza

    RoFortaleza Chieftain

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    I also agree about district stacking,

    maybe it was ridiculous in a way that you could play in single player and stack factories and get awesome games (gauntlet II pls nerf) but they should have just nerfed it or something, not completely remove it.
     
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  5. McGreggD

    McGreggD Chieftain

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    Is anyone else having trouble getting the earth map to load? I tried 3 times and the game stops responding.
     
  6. isau

    isau Deity

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    Here's the data on the 3 new natural wonders.

    Eyjafjallajökull -2 tiles
    Adjacent land plots yield +1 Culture and +2 Food.
    Uses placement rules like Yosimite

    Giant's Causeway - 2 tiles
    Land combat units that enter adjacent plots receive the ability 'Spear of Fionn' (+5 combat strength).
    Uses unique placement rules

    Lysefjord - 3 tiles
    Naval combat units that enter adjacent plots are granted their next promotion.
    Uses placement rules like Piopiopahti
     
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  7. bladex

    bladex Emperor

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    FINALLY!
     
  8. Warlord Sam

    Warlord Sam 2500 hours and counting..

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    They didn't. (In reference to the last built item bug... still not fixed.)
     
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  9. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    The science and production changes are definitely a step in the right direction. I suspect slightly larger/earlier ones would be ideal, but I understand not wanting to shift things too fast (Changes to district costs would also be welcome).

    I'm not sure yet whether the regional bonus change was overkill, but it will definitely remove the pressure to put industrial zones in every city. Hopefully the next patch will find a way to do the same for commercial hubs.

    The unique district change is unexpected but, in my opinion a very good idea. It allows for unique districts to be powerful based on their actual unique features instead of simply by being unique districts. Either removing the production discount as well or applying it to unique buildings would further correct the power discrepancy between these unique types.

    Overall this looks like a solid patch with far more gameplay improvements than the first. It doesn't fix everything ,but it does show that (unlike for BERT) the developers are aware of the biggest balance/tuning issues and making a serious effort to address them.
     
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  10. iammaxhailme

    iammaxhailme Emperor

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    Am I wrong, or is the "please don't convert my cities" request now gone?
     
  11. Brutus2

    Brutus2 Prince

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    Won't load for me either.
     
  12. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    The change to regional bonuses indirectly nerfed Toronto.
     
  13. Soduka

    Soduka Warlord

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    Well the UI is still form over function (slow, fancy scrolling and mystifying lack of vital info on trade and diplomacy screen)

    Still no SDK

    Still all those crappy, hipster tech quotes (I know this was never going to be fixed or changed in a patch but I will still voice my displeasure at the absolutely bottom of the barrel "funny" modern quotes they used in so many places)

    That's a sad, short bug fix list for an entire month of a paid development team. I hope at the very least it crashes less. I put it on the shelf because this is by far the least stable Civilization game I've personally played out of the titles going back to III.

    But hey, they had time to crank out that DLC which I'm sure was the deadline to get whatever they had out the door.
     
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  14. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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  15. oedali

    oedali King

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    They likely have the entire dev team focusing on DLC development. I just wish they could dedicate like 20% of 1 dev's time to improving the AI..
     
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  16. wiggawuu

    wiggawuu Warlord

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    I totally agree. They should of built upon the concept. They could of allowed other districts/buildings to stack for different civs in order to balance. errr, I don't understand the logic.

    Ill reserve some judgement because I have yet to play with the patch. But jesus, the civ series just doesn't have the inspiration it once had. think I'm just going to shelve the whole series eventually and move on. Had a lot of awesome memories of the game though.
     
  17. wiggawuu

    wiggawuu Warlord

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    I don't think Firaxis has the talent working for them they once had. The series has sold so well because its coat tailed off its previous games. Not much ingenuity left in gaming these days. imo
     
  18. God of Kings

    God of Kings Ruler of all heads of state

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    As I said numerous times, the Civ series really need a Cities: Skylines/Planet Coaster treatment. In other words, it needs a direct competitor, especially from an independent mid-sized developer.
     
  19. Amrunril

    Amrunril Emperor

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    I just loaded a game and noticed a UI change that doesn't seem to have made it into the notes: the Great Person screen now shows each civ's emblem next to its progress bars. This is a very helpful change for quick readability, and I hope it will eventually be extended to the city state interface as well.
     
  20. nzcamel

    nzcamel Nahtanoj the Magnificent

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    Seems an odd one to not have addressed! Still no "wait" command for units :(
     
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