New Units: KnightpackII 31/08/2004

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

BreBro, can you use (slightly edit) one of your models to make a Byzantine heavy Cataphract, so we can replace obsolete utahjazz's unit?

Maurikian Byzantine Cavalry and Optimates 578AD-650AD

Nikephorian Byzantine armored Cavalry and Cataphract 936AD-1071AD

Commenan Byzantine Cavalry and Normanic Knights 1071AD-1204AD

Late Byzantine Statiotai and Latinikon Knights 1204AD-1460AD

 

[Rhye]

I've found that the Hungarian Knight works quite well for that purpose. I don't remember who's the author. Is it BeBro's?

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

I've found that the Hungarian Knight works quite well for that purpose. I don't remember who's the author. Is it BeBro's?

it is indeed- perhaps I could recolour it green to be more fitting !?

 

[Rhye]

green? What part would you colour green?
The only missing thing seems the plumed helm

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Which Byzantine Knight are you envisioning to be made, first of all ?

 

[COAtlantis1745]

BreBro, can you use (slightly edit) one of your models to make a Byzantine heavy Cataphract, so we can replace obsolete utahjazz's unit?

Just how "obsolete" is Utah's Cataphract unit supposed to be here? I fail to see any reason why it should be labelled as such.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

(by Utahjazz and Kryten)

Comparison:

 

[Xen]

A)the last unti should be included; its not meant to be Byzantine or Roman at all

B)Cataphracts arnt knights; thier better then knights

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Catapracts are armored cavalry (the last unit in the pictures is in effect a knight, Byzantium didn't use Catapracts for long time before these appeared)

vs.

In what way better?

 

[Xen]

Namewise and coolness factor

that and cataphracts (true cataphracts, as you said, were used for quite a while bwfore the advent of stratotoi, amoung other types of cav), ended after the reign of perhaps one fo the most effective feilderes of cataphracts, Basill II, as they could no longe rbe feiled (or were feilid in less and less numbers), after the fall of the Thematic military system; a pity, as, pound for pound, they were about the same as a western knight; but they were a far more effective force then the knight in that they had the last rememberence sof Roman drill, and thus fought not the individual combat, but as a cohesive unit, to the vast detriment fo thier enemies...

 

[BeBro]

To the various requests her - for the moment I don't plan to make more knights (or similar armoured cav units). If I ever release a third knight pack then some of the units requested here could go in, but currently that is more hypothetical

 

[Rhye]

Obsolete because it is far from being perfect. I think that the Hungarian Knight that Winter has shown is the most similar unit to represent it.

 

[Nazbol]

This is Russian Knight called Vityaz'.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68343&stc=1

 

[Aluminium]

Obsolete because it is far from being perfect. I think that the Hungarian Knight that Winter has shown is the most similar unit to represent it.

The Hungarian Knight is a Ottoman Sipahi of the 16th century.

 

[Rhye]

Then we need a new cataphract.
Utahjazz's one has wrong offsets, its perspective isn't perfect, and it lacks civilopedia pics. And is that attack animation the standard attack??

 

[Ares de Borg]

Danke, Bernd! for making the norman knight! Normal people like you and me are rare these days...

(this is me, preparing for combat somewhere in German woods last saturday)

 

[lordwei]

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!