NFL Draft--How did your team do?

Yea I know, I wanted them to keep Murray. Can't really justify reaching for a RB in the draft just because you lowballed him though.

I really don't like how we've mismanaged Romo's prime. Assuming he can extend his career at least as long as Elway, he's got about 2-3 years. Murray was our only reasonable shot at "Romo's Terrell Davis" and we let him walk because we think our Oline can win a superbowl with the 2015 equivalent of Olandis Gary.

I'm not so sure. What I am sure of is that if Jerry hadn't screwed the cap over so much, we wouldn't have to choose between keeping Murray, signing Dez to a big contract, and acquiring free agents on defense.

Teams have been plugging in journeyman FA with good results. See Forsett, Justin. Maybe the Cowboys think they can do the same. Or they may think Randle can handle it. Back ups really are available off the street.

J
 
Teams have been plugging in journeyman FA with good results. See Forsett, Justin. Maybe the Cowboys think they can do the same. Or they may think Randle can handle it. Back ups really are available off the street.

J

The teams that have success with that are teams that aren't run dependent offenses. The Cowboys have demonstrated repeatedly that when they aren't carried by a running back horse they tend to lose about half the time.
 
They are going to have/need an entire extra team of guys that just hang out with the guys prone to trouble.
 
Cowboys now have 3 of the arguably 25 best players from the draft class, so not a bad haul.

The Cowboys honestly have a good chance of going all the way this time around.

I was not thrilled with the Seahawks draft, even factoring in Graham. They have had good luck drafting SPARQ players, but other teams are onto that now. Frank Clark is one of those aand he deserved to be drafted. But, if his character was sterling, this is still too high.
He's a good player, but his character issues are serious. There's not a doubt in my mind of his ability, but it's a real hit or miss: Either he can stop being a criminal (to put it bluntly) or he was a wasted pick.
Lockett was their best pick, and that is condemnation enough. He is a perfect fit, but a so-so value and lacks a lot of the physical things teams look for these days. Sokoli is the next best pick, which is also condemnation enough.
The good news is the Seahawks squad wasn't one that exactly needed much help to begin with, and they addressed the team's weaknesses pretty well. They even resigned players from the legion of boom (defense) that left the team last time around which made them so good to begin with.

It could be worse. Some of the Seahawks thrive on the gansta vibe. What other team has a basketball goal in the meeting room? Maybe Clark will be one. If not, this is a very blah draft. Not 10 worst, but lower half.

No one took the Seahawks seriously but they came out nowhere and started whipping tail. Pete Carroll isn't particulalry good at playcalls but damn he knows how to draft. He likes to draft players with a big wingspan and big frame (all teams do, but Carroll prioritizes it higher than the others). This is honestly where football is going, because a player's technique and developmental skills for the game itself can be improved more rapidly than ever with all the training and equipment of recent times, but a huge monster with a body capable of blocking like crazy in the first place can't be replaced so easily.
 
It's too early for this to be useful, but here are the betting odds for the 2016 superbowl.

http://heavy.com/sports/2015/05/super-bowl-nfl-odds-patriots-deflategate-tom-brady-suspension/

Spoiler :
Seattle Seahawks 11/2
Green Bay Packers 7/1
New England Patriots 15/2
Indianapolis Colts 8/1
Dallas Cowboys 10/1
Denver Broncos 14/1
Philadelphia Eagles 18/1
Arizona Cardinals 20/1
Baltimore Ravens 25/1
New York Giants 25/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 25/1
Buffalo Bills 33/1
Cincinnati Bengals 33/1
Detroit Lions 33/1
San Francisco 49ers 33/1
St. Louis Rams 33/1
Atlanta Falcons 40/1
Carolina Panthers 40/1
Kansas City Chiefs 40/1
Miami Dolphins 40/1
New Orleans Saints 40/1
New York Jets 40/1
Chicago Bears 50/1
Houston Texans 50/1
Minnesota Vikings 50/1
San Diego Chargers 50/1
Cleveland Browns 75/1
Oakland Raiders 75/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 100/1
Washington Redskins 100/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 200/1
Tennessee Titans 200/1


edit: lol at Colts having good odds despite their terrible drafting.
 
Colts have good odds because their playoff odds are probably the best in the league outside of Seattle. Once you make it in who the hell knows what's gonna happen.
 
Yeah, not only does their division suck ass but frankly the AFC as a whole isn't very good. There's some teams that are solid but not good enough to win a Super Bowl(e.g, basically the whole AFC North sans Cleveland) barring something ridiculous like 2012 where Joe Montana possessed Joe Flacco in the playoffs and made him play stupidly good, and Brady's impending suspension possibly torpedoing the Patriots' season + concerns about Peyton's longevity make it that much weaker.
 
Denver's concerns go beyond Peyton's longevity. Every "off season scorecard" thing I have seen rates them at or near the bottom. They scored poorly in free agency, didn't have a good draft, and the general consensus on swapping John Fox for Gary Kubiak is that friendship overbalanced judgement. Now the third round draft pick TE who was one of the bright spots of their draft because it he offset one of their really bad FA losses is out for the season with an ACL.
 
Training camp has been moved to Huntsville.

The irony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntsville_Unit

Yeah, not only does their division suck ass but frankly the AFC as a whole isn't very good. There's some teams that are solid but not good enough to win a Super Bowl(e.g, basically the whole AFC North sans Cleveland) barring something ridiculous like 2012 where Joe Montana possessed Joe Flacco in the playoffs and made him play stupidly good, and Brady's impending suspension possibly torpedoing the Patriots' season + concerns about Peyton's longevity make it that much weaker.

Did you mean win the Super Bowl again? Brady will be there for the playoffs. Remember that the Pats once won 11 games with Matt Cassell at QB.

J
 
Did you mean win the Super Bowl again? Brady will be there for the playoffs.

No, I mean win the Super Bowl. The Broncos/Patriots were mentioned separately because they're the "real" contenders, although the Pats have lost a lot this offseason, including Wilfork, Browner and Revis, and some other players who are smaller names but were still valuable(Akeem Ayers). Belichick has been pretty terrible drafting DBs lately so Browner+Revis might be a huge blow when you consider the group of castoffs they're trying to replace them with(Brandon Fletcher lol).

Remember that the Pats once won 11 games with Matt Cassell at QB.

Yeah, 11 wins with a team that went 18-1 the year before. Go look at that roster and tell me with a straight face the 2015 Patriots resemble that team at all. So many insanely good players in their primes.

Also, they missed the playoffs.

Granted, they still play in the AFC East which has consistently been the easiest division in football to win. Other divisions have had ups and downs, AFC East has just been awful for forever. Maybe the Dolphins or Bills will get their act together this year and take advantage of it depending how long the suspension is. If he gets 8 games he would miss the Bills in Week 2, Jets in Week 6 and Dolphins in Week 8.

If he's back for the playoffs, great, they still have to make it. If it's 4 games they'll probably survive because their schedule is really, really easy this year because they play the AFC South and NFC East. If it's 6-8 they could have problems.

Denver's concerns go beyond Peyton's longevity. Every "off season scorecard" thing I have seen rates them at or near the bottom. They scored poorly in free agency, didn't have a good draft, and the general consensus on swapping John Fox for Gary Kubiak is that friendship overbalanced judgement. Now the third round draft pick TE who was one of the bright spots of their draft because it he offset one of their really bad FA losses is out for the season with an ACL.

Honestly I thought swapping Fox for Kubiak didn't make a difference. They have the same flaws of being way too conservative with playcalling etc. I mostly want to see how Peyton holds up so we can see if last year was his age or if it really was an injury. It'll be interesting to see how Kubiak's run scheme interacts with the new blocking rules too.
 
Fox calls plays conservatively because he knows he can field a reliable defense. Kubiak calls plays conservatively because he is devoted to an offense that was developed in the last century and hasn't really worked since.
 
No. Win the Super Bowl again, because the AFC is the defending conference.

I generally disagree with your assessment that the AFC is much weaker. I might grant an edge to the NFC, but not a big one. Both conferences have power teams and weak sisters. Take three off the top and three off the bottom, which middle ten is stronger? It's close enough to argue either way.

The best team is New England. We had a tournament to determine that much.

J
 
No, New England was the best team. These things change from year to year. There's a reason no one's repeated in a decade.

If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it's the same team that won the Super Bowl, then sure. But that secondary looks like a joke compared to a few months ago.
 
No, New England was the best team. These things change from year to year. There's a reason no one's repeated in a decade.

If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend it's the same team that won the Super Bowl, then sure. But that secondary looks like a joke compared to a few months ago.

Change I give you. In 2010 the NFC West was the worst division in the NFL and one of the worst ever. In three years it was easily the best. That time at the top was short lived as well. They sent three straight teams to the Super Bowl. I doubt it will be four. New England is champ until they are defeated. That is all I will say on that score.

As to the better conference, lets see how the interconference games play out. Then we will know and not have to argue the point.

Minnesota is notoriously difficult to predict when it makes the Super Bowl.

Only against Buffalo.

J
 
As to the better conference, lets see how the interconference games play out. Then we will know and not have to argue the point.

J

If they play out the way they have the last couple years we can still argue the point, as results have been pretty close to even.
 
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