I looked at the save file and here are my thoughts/questions: Casablanca is going to be hard to take. It can only be hit from the south and unfortunately Cape Town is there. And if Ashur DoW us it might be nigh impossible (at least for me). What is this talk about getting beakers from Missionaries, I always delete them? Does Ahmad have IFD, Edit 4. I'm home now and see he does have it. But this question I still have: does it give science for simply expending the missionary, or do you need to actually convert some citizens? Sounds like its based on number of citizens converted. Is that worth it? Not sure if I'll have the NC option on my round but if so where to build it and do we use the GE? Where to put the Citadel you all are talking about and when? I've attached a screenshot, excused the crudity of the citadel icon haha. Buy the purple circle and citadel the purple star when he DoW us? Buy the pink circle and Citadel the pink star on the Spice which is already his land? I guess we couldn't do that until he DoW us either since it already has a plantation right? Something else? Edit. What to steal? Acoustics costs 9 turns. But do we really need it? Should we steal Chivalry at 5 turns then go for Physics and Gunpower/PP toward our UU's? Or compass in 4 turns for another TR, we are hurting for money. Edit 2. Why are we converting so many of our cities to Catholicism? We're losing our Tithe benefit. And if its for the Mosques, we already have 4 Mosques to build and that's going to already take quite a long time to do. I'm inclined to not convert Espoo yet. Although our religion is getting out pressured by Islam and Catholocism. In fact, we have massive Catholic pressure everywhere now, even more in Stockholm than our own religion. I don't think I'm going to play tonight. Too many questions and unknowns. Its the end of a round anyway so time for discussion.