None Shall Pass 2 [Game Thread - Concluded]

I am not really sure christos is lying and as I told somebody before, so far his accuracy is 100% correct, liar or not he got a not-town... Also he has claimed privately and answered many questions... in the other hand, it would be nice to get more info about Sam from other sources, at this point I don't want to lynch any of them.

Roleclaimed to Snerk and Swammerdami as well.

And verily the Lord said, 'Thou shalt not flinch, for, Oh in My Name, he doth not Suck!'

vote: SamSniped

So, fFoS on each and every one else who's voting for the claimed Seer, at this point: Buddhafish, choxorn, JohannaK, azzaman, and Arakhor.

I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him.
 
Personally, I think christos is scum because he's being so deliberately unhelpful. He only reveals little bits about his role when pressured to, and it gives me the impression he's making at least some of this up as he goes along, or just trying very hard to hide something suspicious. If he's going to publicly claim seer, why not just be clear about that from the start? He already becomes a target the moment he claims that, it's not like being clear about what exactly his ability does makes him more of one, and it's a lot more helpful to the town if he can clarify his ability than if he just says "I have a scan *mumblemumble* x is mafia."

Actually, I imagine an ability sort of like the one he claims to have exists, it might be his, or it might belong to a teammate of his, but who says he has to be town just because he has some sort of investigative ability? At least one of Winston and spaceman clearly had a scan, and they weren't townies. And regardless, he's being incredibly obtuse and unhelpful and literally asking people to lynch him. His behavior just screams "anti-townie" to me, and I think he's the best lynch at this point.
 
I have good reason to believe his role is not as he claimed.
Post the reasons.
I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him.
No, you're just OMGUSing another player, which, coincidentally, puts him in the lead instead of yourself.
Personally, I think christos is scum because he's being so deliberately unhelpful. He only reveals little bits about his role when pressured to, and it gives me the impression he's making at least some of this up as he goes along, or just trying very hard to hide something suspicious. If he's going to publicly claim seer, why not just be clear about that from the start? He already becomes a target the moment he claims that, it's not like being clear about what exactly his ability does makes him more of one, and it's a lot more helpful to the town if he can clarify his ability than if he just says "I have a scan *mumblemumble* x is mafia."
Why would he post information for all the mafia(t)s to know whom to kill?
 
Roleclaimed to Snerk and Swammerdami as well.

Of course, I thought you revealed to more people but meant as results of actions carried on you or your predecessor, not only your claim.


I'm just trying to get a straight answer from him.

Good luck trying! :lol:

Personally, I think christos is scum because he's being so deliberately unhelpful. He only reveals little bits about his role when pressured to, and it gives me the impression he's making at least some of this up as he goes along, or just trying very hard to hide something suspicious. If he's going to publicly claim seer, why not just be clear about that from the start? He already becomes a target the moment he claims that, it's not like being clear about what exactly his ability does makes him more of one, and it's a lot more helpful to the town if he can clarify his ability than if he just says "I have a scan *mumblemumble* x is mafia."

Actually, I imagine an ability sort of like the one he claims to have exists, it might be his, or it might belong to a teammate of his, but who says he has to be town just because he has some sort of investigative ability? At least one of Winston and spaceman clearly had a scan, and they weren't townies. And regardless, he's being incredibly obtuse and unhelpful and literally asking people to lynch him. His behavior just screams "anti-townie" to me, and I think he's the best lynch at this point.

Probably you have something there... his results are complex and elaborated, to much info for a single ability...
 
Post the reasons.

That's a valid point- azzaman's being just as thick on his reasons for disbelieving christos as christos was being thick about his reasons for voting spaceman and SamSniped. That being said....

Why would he post information for all the mafia(t)s to know whom to kill?

So, you want azzaman to post his reasons for voting christos, but you don't want christos to post his reasons for voting SamSniped? Because that's basically what I'm getting out of this. Why the sudden change of heart? Could it be that one of them is your scumbuddy and one of them isn't?

FOS: Takhisis

Probably you have something there... his results are complex and elaborated, to much info for a single ability...

Given that this is a Zack game, I'd expect some weird abilities out there, but yeah, his scan seems rather unusual, even for this game.
 
FOS: Takhisis
Like I said earlier, please don't bold names if you're not voting for someone. You can bold the FOS, just not the name.

Also, (directed at everyone) I'd be interested in seeing quote chains from private conversations. :mischief: (Full conversations only, though, please don't cc me on each individual PM.)
 
Like I said earlier, please don't bold names if you're not voting for someone. You can bold the FOS, just not the name.

Fine.

FOS: Takhisis

My vote remains on christos.
 
Unvote: azzaman333

Vote: SamSniped


Town or not, I don't see the point of christos200 claiming SamSniped was scried Non-Town if he wasn't. If he was making it up he could have picked someone besides an autolynch replacement.
 
Unvote: azzaman333

Vote: SamSniped


Town or not, I don't see the point of christos200 claiming SamSniped was scried Non-Town if he wasn't. If he was making it up he could have picked someone besides an autolynch replacement.

Same here, Samsniped. The way christos has been claiming seems odd, but if it turns out he's lying we can just lynch him tomorrow.
 
By now, with a few injudicious PMs I'll guess scummy factions know a lot about alignments, while Town continues to flounder. While it's easy to say "I'm Town," even lies (which can be discredited) move us toward clarity. Christos in particular needs to tell us more. But for now ...

Vote: azzaman333
 
Personally, I think christos is scum because he's being so deliberately unhelpful. He only reveals little bits about his role when pressured to, and it gives me the impression he's making at least some of this up as he goes along, or just trying very hard to hide something suspicious. If he's going to publicly claim seer, why not just be clear about that from the start? He already becomes a target the moment he claims that, it's not like being clear about what exactly his ability does makes him more of one, and it's a lot more helpful to the town if he can clarify his ability than if he just says "I have a scan *mumblemumble* x is mafia."

That's precisely why I think Christos is scum, too. He's already a target to scum by claiming to be a prophet, yet for some reason (even with three kills a night) he hasn't been targeted yet. Why is this? Why is a claimed prophet still alive to point out non-Town roles?
 
FOS on all three Lynch candidates, but the one whose (lack of) response is most suspicious is ...

Unvote; Vote: christos200
 
So we got Christos saying his ability is one thing, and an ability scanner is saying his ability is a completely different thing. These games would be so much easier if everybody would just agree on everything!

Unvote, vote Takhisis for now, answer your PM please.
 
That's precisely why I think Christos is scum, too. He's already a target to scum by claiming to be a prophet, yet for some reason (even with three kills a night) he hasn't been targeted yet. Why is this? Why is a claimed prophet still alive to point out non-Town roles?

Ssssssffffffffsssssss..... Lets be clear here, he is no prophet! He haven't claimed prophet... and while I could reach to understand the secretive nature of all his reveals I think it is time to put all in public, because this won't wash away and tomorrow we will again trying to figure out what to make with christos...
 
unvote; vote: Takhisis. I'm looking for a good #3 lynch candidate, and all the little signs and feelings point to him being a good option for that.
 
Lets be clear here, he is no prophet! He haven't claimed prophet

He claims to have the ability to detect whether someone is LotR or SW and whether they are Town or otherwise. What kind of ability is that if it's not prophet, scryer, cop or other name of choice?
 
What kind of ability is that if it's not prophet, scryer, cop or other name of choice?

Made up? :lol:

While I agree Takhibarto needs to explain many things better, he have been kind of cooperative without pressure compared to christos in my humble opinion.

If christos decide to answer my last question perhaps I can change my mind.
 
Official Tally!

[TIMER=3/5/2015 11:59:59 PM EST; Day Four Over]tunnel snakes rule[/TIMER]


Spoiler :
8 christos200 (JohannaK, Arakhor, choxorn, azzaman333, Buddhafish, SamSniped, Swammerdami, Riedquat)

6 SamSniped (christos200, Legato Endless, Newyn, Takhisis, Internet Flea, Tanar Aerdoth)

2 Takhisis (Snerk, BSmith1068)

1 azzaman333 (edse)

0 No Lynch (n/a)

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1 Abstain (Kennigit)

3 Not Voting (KingMorgan, TFT*, Verarde)
 
Unvote: Vote: Takhisis, you have nothing to say?

Damn you Zack, I was doing a tally.
Spoiler :

8 christos200 (JohannaK, Arakhor, choxorn, azzaman333, Buddhafish, SamSniped, Swammerdami, Riedquat)

6 SamSniped (christos200, Legato Endless, Newyn, Takhisis, Internet Flea, Tanar Aerdoth)

3 Takhisis (Snerk, BSmith1068, edse)

0 No Lynch (n/a)

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1 Abstain (Kennigit)

3 Not Voting (KingMorgan, TFT, Verarde)
 
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