Half of the banned civ3 exploits weren't as powerful as the not-banned ones. It's not fun to "game the game" by manipulating obscure game mechanics for a large advantage over the AI's. Things like capturing the great library in the late industrial or modern age. Or building cities in a perfect circle so corruption was equal with all cities. These most definitely do ruin the fun of the game. But if you don't use them then you can't compete in the GOTM. I did the palace jump in one of my gotm games for civ3. That was the only game I received a fastest finish reward...but I didn't feel good about it and felt dirty, like I was cheating, because I was. Because regardless of what the GOTM rules say, palace jumping was exploiting, no doubt about it. edit: And sorry for taking this thread way off topic. All further posts will be in a different thread, should I have further posts to add.