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Azale said:
i have answered this before.
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i have answered this before.
Yes, but numbers of victims caused by crime/violence at the civilian level is low, often not over a 2 thousand a year per large city. War is not started by average Joes such as myself. That is started by crazy, power hungry dictators such as yourself, want historical examples?
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Mao Zedong
Tojo (military leader)
Castro
Sure, democracies have entered wars and inflicted casualties, but rarely do they START wars.
justoneinpower said:
You mean thousands of wars, and you mean wars that were generally fought between dictators of one sort or another. I would rather have the human race go extinct than live in perpetual tyranny. Mark my statement here sir, I am the type of person you will have to kill a billion of or so.
CruddyLeper
Unworshipped Deity
Since WW2 (started by UK and France in face of Nazi invasion of Poland) there has been only one year when a UK soldier has NOT died in combat.
Democracy is always at war, from that point of view. It might not be Hollywood epic with millions of combatants, but we've always been fighting.
I suspect that's true of France and the US too. And it's certainly true about Israel. ALL democracies.
Lotta guns get sold just on the threat of war. Work it out.
Democracy is always at war, from that point of view. It might not be Hollywood epic with millions of combatants, but we've always been fighting.
I suspect that's true of France and the US too. And it's certainly true about Israel. ALL democracies.
Lotta guns get sold just on the threat of war. Work it out.
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Atlas14 said:
yeah, that path has worked before. if everyone simply minded their own business, and didn't care about anybody else, this world would be one screwed up place.
Why do you care if its one screwed up place. Go buy a cabin in the middle of the Rocky Mountains with a beautiful lake, and live in isolation. You won't have to deal with any of the disaster that is supposedly ruining everyone.
Tulkas12 said:You mean thousands of wars, and you mean wars that were generally fought between dictators of one sort or another. I would rather have the human race go extinct than live in perpetual tyranny. Mark my statement here sir, I am the type of person you will have to kill a billion of or so.
Answer this Just1. Please adrees the fact that most wars are and have been started by the form of government you are proposing.
SeleucusNicator
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Atlas14 said:
Somebody hasn't been paying attention to world history after 2001.
There have been far more dictatorships throughout history than there have been democracies, and the distribution of democracies has not been equal across all geopolitical regions. Give it more time; right now we have insufficient data to say anything about different forms of government and their warlikeness.
SeleucusNicator said:
This won't slide, dictatorships are far more capable of getting wars declared than democracies anyways.
More time? I concede the ;earning of mankind never ends, but atm the statement can be said and easily supported. . . So why are you arguing against it again?
SeleucusNicator
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Tulkas12 said:
My argument is this: you cannot make the argument "because democracies have started fewer wars than non-democracies, democracies are inherently less warlike", because the current empirical dataset is limited in significant ways.
I'm not disputing the empirical data; I'm saying that it is insufficient to draw a rigorous (am I using that word correctly, Perfection?) conclusion.
Golf3r
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so wait, justonein, if no one belives this crap (and no one will besides a few like-minded people) and world war three does occur, this entire rant by you is pointless. Give it up, wars happen because of oppression (hence dictatorship) or greed in one way or another. You cannot stop it, so give it up. jeez.
