Nostalgia for MtG

anybody know if that online magic game is still around? i think it was called Apprentice. it was a big deal a few years ago because it was using their card info illegally but magic gave them permission instead of following thru with destroying it. visually it was very basic. no card pictures but it had the name and info on the card. you could connect to a friend and play them. great for trying out deck ideas before you went out looking for the cards you would need. it was free too.
 
Originally posted by sween32
anybody know if that online magic game is still around? i think it was called Apprentice. it was a big deal a few years ago because it was using their card info illegally but magic gave them permission instead of following thru with destroying it. visually it was very basic. no card pictures but it had the name and info on the card. you could connect to a friend and play them. great for trying out deck ideas before you went out looking for the cards you would need. it was free too.

Apprentice is still around; I've played it a few times, but the lack of graphics for the cards and the way you have to manually control the game made me quit pretty soon. Magic Online is now out, with graphics and rules support and everything online, but it costs money for digital cards :(. At least you can trade in the digital cards for real ones if you want to though.
 
That really sucks- I think they ought to have an online version with full card art available and all sets available. At least being able to play a virtual Mox would be fun...

Sween, keep your fingers crossed that I get the job in Massachussetts I've applied for- then I'll drop by with my decks and play you in person...
 
Originally posted by Antonius Block
That really sucks- I think they ought to have an online version with full card art available and all sets available. At least being able to play a virtual Mox would be fun...

Sween, keep your fingers crossed that I get the job in Massachussetts I've applied for- then I'll drop by with my decks and play you in person...

I guess I wasn't clear enough. MTGOnline has the card art and everything and all cards from Invasion onwards. They have online tournaments and drafts and such, but I would still rather play in person with my opponent. The online cards cost money, but when you want to you can trade them in and they will mail you the actual physical cards.
 
Originally posted by Antonius Block
Sween, keep your fingers crossed that I get the job in Massachussetts I've applied for- then I'll drop by with my decks and play you in person...
where in Mass?
 
yes it does. the less complicated, the more ex-pokemon fiends will cross over.
 
Originally posted by JohannMacLeod
umm, doesn't all this point to the fact that it looks like mtg has sold out, majorly?

Originally posed by sween32
yes it does. the less complicated, the more ex-pokemon fiends will cross over.

What are you guys talking about, that they clarified the rules? Why would they need to attract pokemon players when they own both games?
 
because pokemon was very succesful when the rules were changed (pokemon was just as popular because of simple gameplay as it was for the cartoon), and now that they're actually losing money with pokemon they are heavily reliant on magic. electrical superstorms... devistating earth quakes... unexplai--- uh... sorry, brainwashed for a second... must... see... stupid... movie...
 
Originally posted by sween32
because pokemon was very succesful when the rules were changed, and now that they're actually losing money with pokemon now they are heavily reliant on magic.

Maybe they are now heavily reliant on Magic for revenue, although Wizards has said that that's not the case. However, back when they changed the rules, Pokemon was still roaring along, and unless they could see the future, which I doubt, the future decline of Pokemon would not be able to act as a spur for clarifying the Magic rules, which was a good thing even if it had not increased the number of Magic players.

Incidentally, Invasion block rather than the rules change was the most successful thing for attracting new players in the history of Magic; it caused many veterans who had retired to return to the game and also attracted many new players.
 
Originally posted by GerrardCapashen


Maybe they are now heavily reliant on Magic for revenue, although Wizards has said that that's not the case. However, back when they changed the rules, Pokemon was still roaring along, and unless they could see the future, which I doubt, the future decline of Pokemon would not be able to act as a spur for clarifying the Magic rules, which was a good thing even if it had not increased the number of Magic players.
That's my point. Magic players were actually converting to Pokemon because of the game play. So, they changed the rules so they'd buy BOTH products. Although it may not seem like it now, but everybody knew why they were changing the rules back then. I remember cursing Pokemon for the change.

Originally posted by GerrardCapashen
Incidentally, Invasion block rather than the rules change was the most successful thing for attracting new players in the history of Magic; it caused many veterans who had retired to return to the game and also attracted many new players.
That was when gold cards came back, correct? I did come back for a bit, but then I realized my secret succesful combo of blue and green was finally found out and everybody was playing it.
:vomit:
 
Ah,memories.
I began back when the Dark came out.I finally
quit after Torment came out.
The rules changes where a godsend with "The Stack".Urza set was ridiculous.Remember when alot
of us couldn't wait for it to leave type 2.
Talk about nostalgia....remember back in the day
when "The Rack " deck ruled all.
 
Originally posted by sween32
That's my point. Magic players were actually converting to Pokemon because of the game play. So, they changed the rules so they'd buy BOTH products. Although it may not seem like it now, but everybody knew why they were changing the rules back then. I remember cursing Pokemon for the change.

Hmm. I don't remember anyone I knew 'converting' to Pokemon (oh the heresy!!) because of the gameplay, which is simplistic and overly structured at best. But I'll take your word for it.

That was when gold cards came back, correct? I did come back for a bit, but then I realized my secret succesful combo of blue and green was finally found out and everybody was playing it.
:vomit:

Yeah, that was when gold cards came back. Blue/Green cards actually didn't show up until Apocalypse, but multicolor was the order of the day in Invasion block. Blue-Green has long been recognized as one of the best two-color combinations, so I don't think you can blame the R&D team for inspiring everyone else to steal your 'secret' color combination.
 
I don't want to buy the cards on line is the problem.

And yes, of course Wizards sold out- they got sold out from under themselves to Hasbro. At which point I had hoped they were going to release half size edition of all the cards ever. But nooooo.

Sween I'll pm you the city.
 
:lol: i'd bust out my deck and everybody would be like "blue and green? what are you nuts?" and then i'd cream them. been playing those two together since i first started playing. they work wonderfully as a team. never saw another blue/green two-color deck that wasn't made by me until Apocalypse.
 
Originally posted by Antonius Block
I don't want to buy the cards on line is the problem.

Hey, I don't buy online cards either. I prefer to play face-to-face with my opponent rather than interacting with my computer. Come to think of it, why do I spend all this time on this forum? :confused:

And yes, of course Wizards sold out- they got sold out from under themselves to Hasbro. At which point I had hoped they were going to release half size edition of all the cards ever. But nooooo.

No, they have a policy of not reprinting any rares from before Ice Age, so that would never happen.
 
Yes GIJoe, the Rack deck was arch enemy back in the day. A nightmare.

Green and blue, some green and blue cards had appeared by the time of Mirage/Visions. The deck color combo was in use by clever players back in Ice Age, when my white weenie lost to a manabirds/manaelves/control magic rogue deck.
 
Originally posted by sween32
:lol: i'd bust out my deck and everybody would be like "blue and green? what are you nuts?" and then i'd cream them. been playing those two together since i first started playing. they work wonderfully as a team. never saw another blue/green deck that wasn't made by me until Apocalypse.

Never played against U-G Deranged Hermit Opposition or Tradewind Rider Opposition? That was pretty strong back during Urza block, could even prevent the combo deack from going off sometimes.

Tradewind Rider Opposition still shows up in Extended tournaments, and I am trying to build it because I think it's a cool deck.
 
gerrard, i did mention i quit for a long time after the second Urza installment, right?
 
Originally posted by sween32
gerrard, i did mention i quit after the second Urza installment, right?

Maybe you mentioned it, but if you did I forgot it. I'll see if I can remember it in the future so I don't bombard you with newer decks and formats, expecting you to already know them.
 
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