Not guilty. The Israeli captain who emptied his rifle into a Palestinain schoolgirl

[MobBoss]

Israelis do target and kill civilians. Their investigations are usually whitewashes. And Palestinians don't fight for religion: they fight for land.

No one is arguing that civilians havent been killed by the IDF...such things occur in armed conflict. Specific targeting? Much less evidence exists to support that allegation.

 

[Flying Pig]

And Palestinians don't fight for religion: they fight for land.

Because all US soldiers joined up for the same reason, right? And all British ones, and all French ones, so it's good logic to assume the same about Palestinians?

No one is arguing that civilians havent been killed by the IDF...such things occur in armed conflict. Specific targeting? Much less evidence exists to support that allegation.

Well, I think it's more like 'they're less vigilant on preventing civillian casulties than they really ought to be'. After all everyone hates them where they are regardless of what they do.

 

[MobBoss]

I wouldn't call an Israeli military tribunal a "court of law". That is being a bit disingenuous to say the least

Actually, it is indeed a court of law, and the opposite is quite true...i.e. its disingenuous to say it isnt simply because you dont agree with the verdict based upon the small amount of information you have.

especially based on their extensive history of complete whitewashes regarding the Palestinians.

Right.

Even you have stated that there must be overwhelming evidence which we are not privy for some odd unexplained reason to rationalize this particular decision.

Since I dont have access to the entire record, yes, I think thats a given.

That raises an interesting point. Israel has been the largest recipient of US foreign aid for decades,

Actually, thats not true. Iraq has been the #1 recipiant for some years now, and while Israel is indeed 2nd, Egypt is a close third to Israel. Israel and Egypt combined account for about 1/3 off all US foreign aid all over the world....

Well, I think it's more like 'they're less vigilant on preventing civillian casulties than they really ought to be'. After all everyone hates them where they are regardless of what they do.

That could be a more legitimate argument, however, its also one that gets flung around regardless of how many measures you do actually take...

 

[amadeus]

That Israel needs to be held to a higher standard or stop getting the treatment it gets.

No, because all you end up doing is creating a double standard and let the numerous abuses of the Egyptian, Saudi, etc. regimes slip by the wayside.

 

[GhostWriter16]

No, because all you end up doing is creating a double standard and let the numerous abuses of the Egyptian, Saudi, etc. regimes slip by the wayside.

This...

Israel is far from perfect but they are on our side. Egypt and Saudi Arabia just pretend to be on our side. Deal with them first.

 

[Ajidica]

No, because all you end up doing is creating a double standard and let the numerous abuses of the Egyptian, Saudi, etc. regimes slip by the wayside.

Israel is a modern, first world, western, liberal democracy. Is it wrong I expect them to be better than a desert hellhole?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

This went to a court of law. How much more accountable do you want it to be?

No it didn't, several relatively minor accusations, which were related to the incident, did. He was not on trial for shamelessly pumping an unarmed civilian girl full of lead.

 

[Tank_Guy#3]

By the way, when the defense team say that "confirmation of the kill is standard", what they mean is "shoot some more to make sure they're dead". Even if it's a little girl.

I'm reminded of this quote: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

You're in the wrong forum, zulu. This goes into World History.

I second that.

 

[MobBoss]

No it didn't, several relatively minor accusations, which were related to the incident, did. He was not on trial for shamelessly pumping an unarmed civilian girl full of lead.

Of course it did. Your objection simply isnt valid. At least be honest that it did go to court and he was cleared of the charges levied against him.

That is indeed 'being accountable' in about as much as one could expect in this situation. Simply because it didnt achieve the desired result you would have wanted doesnt make it not accountable.

 

[zulu9812]

No, because all you end up doing is creating a double standard and let the numerous abuses of the Egyptian, Saudi, etc. regimes slip by the wayside.

So, should Israel be held to the standard of Saudi Arabia?