Nubia First Look

This. I don't know too much about Nubia, but it kinda just looks like Egypt but with a curvy black lady to me. The units, the pyramids, everything might as well be Egyptian. There's more unique civs they could have chosen, but they didn't. It's a bit similair to Macedon, really. That's another civ that just didn't have to be in the game, or at the very least not at this stage. We're missing very important core civs and they're filling up the roster with what feels like filler. Even with like the TSL Egypt will have room for one city along the nile and that's it. Meanwhile the rest of Africa is empty.

Maybe this time they pay more attention to importance and relevance and not only for the representation of every single corner of the world. The Nubian Civilization is worth to be represented in this game. Just leave them outside only because they were the neighbors of an even greater Civilization is not fair. The Nubian Civilization was a real great Civilization and not only a Civ made for the game and variety. The Nubians would have had to represent Africa much earlier!

I'm of two minds regarding Nubia...

However, its inclusion is at the exclusion of more historically important and interesting civilizations, certainly globally, but even compared solely to other African civilizations. This game is already too bloated with novelty civilizations and as of yet still only contains an anemic amount of core civilizations. Nubia aggravates that problem.

NO the opposite. The Nubian Civilization was very important. They even occupied Egypt in the Late Period. The Nubian Civilization is older than the kingdom of Axum and was worldwide more significant. I will be better silent on the Zulu in this context.


Worst of all is the character design for whats-her-name. Though I suppose that creates an incentive to play as Nubia, so ....

This is not a beauty contest. In addition, it has to do with the comic style, about which has already been so much written. In my opinion, it fits very well to the seriousness of the game theme.

She is the opposite of Cleopatra and not another beauty celebrity and that is good for me.


Last but not least:

Well, they did not call the Civ Sudan. This could also give hope for the next Civ from SEA and their name!

Indonesia
did not fit anymore IMO. Srivijaya or Majapahit fits better together with the other Civ names.:assimilate:


And if I remember correct we were speculating about a hint for NBA before dlc5 came in the anticipation thread:

N u B i A

Everyone was the opinion that this has something to do with basketball or such things;)
Next time we had to be better, when we want to find out what comes next!!!
 
And if I remember correct we were speculating about a hint for NBA before dlc5 came in the anticipation thread:

N u B i A

Everyone was the opinion that this has something to do with basketball or such things;)
Next time we had to be better, when we want to find out what comes next!!!
To be fair, most NBA players are African American.
 
And if I remember correct we were speculating about a hint for NBA before dlc5 came in the anticipation thread:

N u B i A

Everyone was the opinion that this has something to do with basketball or such things;)
Next time we had to be better, when we want to find out what comes next!!!

:eek:

Mind blowing!
 
I'm not sure I'm getting the point of nubian pyramids.
Ok you can improve desert tiles - but unless you build Petra, they're going to remain crappy tiles. You can build them between districts, but it should usually be more efficient to care for adjacency bonus.
As for the flood plains, adjacent farms seem more powerful.

Is it worth it to settle near desert, build a pyramid near city center, only for the accelerated district ? 40% look like an impressive number but what's the point if your population remain too low to use it ?
 
I'm not sure I'm getting the point of nubian pyramids.
Ok you can improve desert tiles - but unless you build Petra, they're going to remain crappy tiles. You can build them between districts, but it should usually be more efficient to care for adjacency bonus.
As for the flood plains, adjacent farms seem more powerful.

Is it worth it to settle near desert, build a pyramid near city center, only for the accelerated district ? 40% look like an impressive number but what's the point if your population remain too low to use it ?

I've bolded the important bit of what you said :) The nubian pyramids get increased yields for each district adjacent to them, so if you build around them, they can become very powerful tiles. Plus, if you have the pyramid next to the city centre, those districts will be built even faster.
 
I'm not sure I'm getting the point of nubian pyramids.
Ok you can improve desert tiles - but unless you build Petra, they're going to remain crappy tiles. You can build them between districts, but it should usually be more efficient to care for adjacency bonus.
As for the flood plains, adjacent farms seem more powerful.

Is it worth it to settle near desert, build a pyramid near city center, only for the accelerated district ? 40% look like an impressive number but what's the point if your population remain too low to use it ?
40% means that a district which would have taken about 20 turns (17 with the base Nubia bonus) , can be completed in 14 or 15. That's a good amount of production which can be used for something else. The maximum yield for a pyramid on plain desert is 7 various resources, but obviously, that's not likely to happen very often. I think the pyramid is fairly good to put down here and there where you can get some nice adjacencies, next to a city to boost district production, or on a floodplain early on to get faith and food. You can always replace it with a farm later on, when farm adjacency bonuses come into effect.
 
Has anyone here playing against Nubia managed to trigger her positive agenda reaction? I thought I maxed out the district limit in all of my cities but still no diplo bonus...
 
Nubia UU is excellent and the 20% off districts is decent, sometimes 40% if you get a lucky desert tile near a good city location. The problem for me is when you start in the middle of a huge desert, Nubian pyramid is only good singly for the 20% district production boost, as a workable tile its going to be terrible most of the time and farms are going to be better in floodplains most of the time. Pyramid in a flat desert isn't a workable tile even with some districts nearby. You have to compare to what would normally be a nice plains/grassland with some hills as other civs you can pick, desert starts are just horrible even for Nubia or any current Civ for that matter.

With the patch adding 10% off district costs but making district buildings cost 10% more is overall a net negative to Nubia and all civs. You now have to spend even more time building or buying buildings... Barely any time to do anything else! And low production cities are horrible.
 
This is the trouble with DLC... They just keep getting more and more interesting or OP to use another phrase... How long is the DLC Queue ? Is Sean Bean seriously popping in to some Sound Studio to do another Voice Intro every 3 months ?? If Harald or Gandhi came out as DLC would you want to spend money to play them ?? Can't wait to see who is available for Download in 2 years time...
 
This is the trouble with DLC... They just keep getting more and more interesting or OP to use another phrase... How long is the DLC Queue ? Is Sean Bean seriously popping in to some Sound Studio to do another Voice Intro every 3 months ?? If Harald or Gandhi came out as DLC would you want to spend money to play them ?? Can't wait to see who is available for Download in 2 years time...

At least Civ6's DLC policy is better that, say, Paradox's.
 
At least Civ6's DLC policy is better that, say, Paradox's.
Couldn't disagree more. Paradox's DLC come out to almost universally positive reception, are very high quality and generally change the game in some substantial way to keep it interesting. Plus if you don't want to get the DLC you still get the core rule updates for free.
I have no problem with either company's DLC policy and if it gets us more product than we would have gotten otherwise then that's fine by me. Even with all the costs combined it's cheap for the number of hours I will dump into such games.
 
Couldn't disagree more. Paradox's DLC come out to almost universally positive reception, are very high quality and generally change the game in some substantial way to keep it interesting. Plus if you don't want to get the DLC you still get the core rule updates for free.
I have no problem with either company's DLC policy and if it gets us more product than we would have gotten otherwise then that's fine by me. Even with all the costs combined it's cheap for the number of hours I will dump into such games.

Paradox comes out with expansions more often (that are smaller and cheaper than civs), and for longer, definitely. But like two-thirds of the Europa Universalis or Crusader Kings DLC on steam is either music packs or just content packs of graphical models. I'd rather CIv not follow their example tbh, and say launch with just generic music and charge for civ specific music packs.
 
Paradox comes out with expansions more often (that are smaller and cheaper than civs), and for longer, definitely. But like two-thirds of the Europa Universalis or Crusader Kings DLC on steam is either music packs or just content packs of graphical models. I'd rather CIv not follow their example tbh, and say launch with just generic music and charge for civ specific music packs.
I actually like that model. They are purely aesthetic and add nothing to the game, meaning I don't have to buy them. I didn't buy them at first, then decided to pick a few up based on who I played.
I'd have no problem paying a couple dollars to get units modified graphically for a Civ. So all my units look a bit more "Roman" whether through carrying detailed banners reflecting real world ones, or modifying units (eg having cavalry with Roman style armour and cloaks, etc etc). In fact, the more I think about it the more awesome that would be.
 
I just wanted to share this amazing start I had with Nubia. I think this is about the best you could hope for. Fertile jungle on one side of a river, a whole bunch of desert hills, 3 of which have mineable resources on the other. I just finished Petra, have a feeling I will be able to get Chichen Itza later on.

EDIT: By the way, King difficulty, Epic speed, Tiny map with high sea level

Nubiastart.jpg
 
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I just wanted to share this amazing start I had with Nubia. I think this is about the best you could hope for. Fertile jungle on one side of a river, a whole bunch of desert hills, 3 of which have mineable resources on the other. I just finished Petra, have a feeling I will be able to get Chichen Itza later on.

EDIT: By the way, King difficulty, Epic speed, Tiny map with high sea level

Nubiastart.jpg

Bonus points for using the lion AKA the best religion symbol :goodjob:
 
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