Nuclear Strikes

[BlueMonday]

I doubt that it will be another country that uses nukes. Instead it will probably be another nutcase fanatic.

However, if I have one worry about a country using nukes it would be Israel, actually. As I understand it we've been giving them short range tactical nukes since before the six days war.

 

[joespaniel]

I agree that it wont be a nation-state that uses nuclear bombs first, but a terror organization. For that reason alone I support the military action against al-Quaida, not as retaliation for Sept 11.

Heres a list of nuclear armed countries:

US
Russia (including former Soviet rebublics)
Britain
France
China
Isreal (they built their own, actualy)
Pakistan
India

Heres a list of countries that have tried or may (?) have nuclear arms:

North Korea (agreed to stop trying in exchange for US aid)
Iran (actively trying to purchase some from Russia now)
Iraq (tried over and over, stopped once by Isreali warplanes, then US)
Syria (?)
Libya (?)
South Africa (does not have any currently)

Aside from these, I know of no others.

If al-Quaida or another group were to get 'fissionable material', they could build their own bomb with enough money (to hire machinists and electricians). Its actualy fairly easy, but dangerous if your not careful.

They obviously dont need a missle, one or two guys in a boat could sail into a coastal city and...

 

[Mikoyan]

Egypt also has access to nuclear weapons, they have some A-Bombs stored in a huge facility near Heliopolis.

 

[Mikoyan]

Egypt also has access to nuclear weapons, they have some A-Bombs stored in a huge facility near Heliopolis.
They can arm their Tu-16's with these bombs, although, to most airforces in the area, these will be easily shot down if not heavily escorted.

 

[amadeus]

Pretty much every country on that list is pursuing some kind of nuclear capabilities...most of them are pretty unlikely, like Lebanon...

 

[Morgasshk]

Any country that is dumb enough to use a nuke on another country will get stomped by a TOTALLY united world.... We are prett damn untied now against this terrorism, but there are the usual sideliners and fencesitters like Sweden, Norway, Switz. etc... (No problems there though! I'd stay out of these fukked uop wars 2!) but as soon as someone fires a nuke the rest of the civilized world will wake up and stomp them out of existence and there will finally be a DECENT convention on the usage of nukes and their brother weapons.....


Morgasshk

 

[Simon Darkshade]

One concurs to the notion of Lebanon being laughable in terms of being a "nukoolar" capable state. Are they even a state anymore ?
As for the words of Boris, anime, I would take them with so many pinchs of salt, the Dead Sea could turn fresh. The man, and I use that word in its most loose terms, was probably smashed on the leftover rocketfuel from the SS20s, and had just reshuffled his cabinet, making vodka Prime Minister...

I would doubt that NK or China would ever go nuclear against the US.
Outside of the Clancy-commie-conspiracy universe, in the real world, China far prefers competing economically, and NK is not suicidal. Neither of the leaderships is as manically mad and stupid as some would paint them (I say leaderships as there is more to NK than Kim Jong Il, and he seems on the way out within 10-20 years) They simply would not gain anything by it, and would lose the power they have.

I lean towards it being a non state group, but I hope and pray not. I reiterate that if, as it is increasingly suspected, Iraq has something to do with the anthrax situation, there may be some mushroom clouds in the desert, with weapons development sites taken out with a big symbolic gesture... I'm not saying it will happen, but it is a scenario that has a some small chance of occuring. The warning was made to Iraq in the Gulf conflict: Use WMD, and we will nuke you.

It remains to be seen what happens, but nuclear action by the US or Israel against Iraq is in my mind the most likely of a list of hopefully unlikely scenarios. It would have severe backlashes, even if completely justified, from the brainless hipsters of the lunatic Left, and the brainwashed masses of the Islamic world.

 

[Mikoyan]

It would have severe backlashes, even if completely justified, from the brainless hipsters of the lunatic Left, and the brainwashed masses of the Islamic world.

Do i sense som bigotry?

 

[scorch]

Originally posted by rmsharpe


I disagree. If someone uses a nuclear weapon against us, it'll be a country like North Korea or China.

The Middle East doesn't like rocket warfare...they'd rather prefer the briefcase bombs and plane hijackings.

did you expect them to blow up the WTC like that?

No, suprise is some big cool tactic, maybe dropping a nuke would be a good idea from their view coz US wouldn't be expecting it.

 

[joespaniel]

I agree with Simon, only one country in the world sticks out in my mind as being #1,capable #2,willing and #3,stupid enough to attack the US with anthrax;

Iraq.

When they find out for sure, and they will, I predict a bombing campaign 20 times that in Afghanistan will hit Saddam and his stooges. This time he wont survive.

I am very much in favor of the assassination of that bastard. I say its time to 'unleash' the CIA and lift the ban.

I await the proof, however... <tapping foot>

 

[G-Man]

I don't think the US will nuke Iraq for the anthrax attack. So far the attacks killed only 1 man, and I don't think the US will kill millions because of that. More likely it'll be like in a Tom Clancey book where a mad dictator started a biological attack on the US. The president sent a stealth bomber and a few undercover agents. The agents filmed the dictator's house and sent the pictures live to the US. The dictator saw it and tried to run away but then came the bomber and destroyed his house....

Anyway, the first country that uses WMD without being attacked by one or without being in a situation that risks it's existence should be destroyed.

 

[Mikoyan]

Hmm.. both Israel and Egypt was pretty close to nuking each other during the darkest hours of the Yom Kippur war. If they would have it would have been WW3.........

 

[G-Man]

Not really... Egypt doesn't have nukes (They have nuclear bombers but no bombs) and Israel wouldn't use it's nuclear missiles unless the IDF would fail in defending the country.

 

[Mikoyan]

Egypt did their firs nuclear tests in the Qattara swamp in the early 1960's, this informatíon only came out by the Egyptian state and the KGB som 12 years ago.... And they may not have many bombs right now, but they have the materials to build them.

 

[G-Man]

Where did you get this info from?

 

[Mikoyan]

An old swedish book of facts from 1992.

 

[G-Man]

I dunno.... Janes.com don't say anything about it and they usually have all the information

 

[Mikoyan]

Man, this is REALLY old info, i also found it on an american weapons expert site, i cant remember its name, but it listed all the countries+their nuclear capabilities, and i even saw a detailed map of their Heliopolis based nuclear labs.

 

[G-Man]

A nuclear lab or a nuclear warehouse?

 

[Mikoyan]

It was a HUGE facility, probably 1km long, and they said it was their nuclear and biologichal weapons labs, not far from the Heliopolis nuclear plant, look, im not sure if they have any bombs in storage right now, but im quite sure on my facts. They don't have much money to spend on nukes anyways.