Obama to NASA: Forget space, think about the poor Muslims

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From FOX News via the Drudge Report:

NASA Chief: Next Frontier Better Relations With Muslim World

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his "foremost" mission as the head of America's space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

Though international diplomacy would seem well outside NASA's orbit, Bolden said in an interview with Al Jazeera that strengthening those ties was among the top tasks President Obama assigned him. He said better interaction with the Muslim world would ultimately advance space travel.

"When I became the NASA administrator -- or before I became the NASA administrator -- he charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering," Bolden said in the interview.
Is this really the kind of ridiculous nonsense NASA should partake in? Will NASA try to improve our relations with Christian nations that have helped further science? I can't help but think Wernher von Braun and others played an important role in the founding of our space and rocketry programs.
 
You accidentally forgot to quote the whole article

The NASA administrator was in the Middle East last month marking the one-year anniversary since Obama delivered an address to Muslim nations in Cairo. Bolden spoke in June at the American University in Cairo -- in his interview with Al Jazeera, he described space travel as an international collaboration of which Muslim nations must be a part.

"It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim (nations)," he said. He held up the International Space Station as a model, praising the contributions there from the Russians and the Chinese.

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.

He said the United States is not going to travel beyond low-Earth orbit on its own and that no country is going to make it to Mars without international help.

Bolden has faced criticism this year for overseeing the cancellation of the agency's Constellation program, which was building new rockets and spaceships capable of returning astronauts to the moon. Stressing the importance of international cooperation in future missions, Bolden told Al Jazeera that the moon, Mars and asteroids are still planned destinations for NASA.
 
Hahaha and by the end of the year the Us would rely on the Russians to send there equipment and man to space
 
Whether in part or total, it's a depressing retreat from the glory days of Gemini and Apollo. President's Clinton, Bush and Obama have all made the "Mars Speech", without commitment or funding. The cancellation of various projects and the language epitomized by this and other administration statements make it clear that space exploration is on the back burner - and the gas bill hasn't been paid in years.

"No country is going to make it to Mars without international help." = it's not going to happen at all.

But you have to admit Ziggy, that "foremost mission... is to improve relations with the Muslim World" is way weird. The President using comments by NASA to send signals to the Middle East is a Hollywood Movie kind of crazy.
 
I admit that is weird. Never denied it. But I'm not sure in what way Mr. Bolden is accurately describing what Obama told him. Added to that the way he worded it: "... and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me .." hint that the 'foremost' part was speculation or dramatization on Bolden's behalf.

So I'm not going to pass judgment on this based on the way Bolden paraphrases and remembers his briefing.

edit: I'm sure NASA has mission statements on their site. If this appears as their prime objective in there, I'd like to see it and then I'll be just as amazed as anyone about it.
 
But isn't that what we do here? I mean pass judgment on everyone in the most negative and misinterpreted way possible?
Very good point. Maybe the Netherlands reaching the finals is messing with my negativity. I'll try to avoid that in the future.
 
The interview itself (22 minutes long): http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/talktojazeera/2010/07/201071122234471970.html

"It's not a diplomatic anything," Bolden added. "What it is is -- it's trying to expand our outreach so that we get more people that can contribute to the things we do.

The International Space Station is as great as it is because we have a conglomerate of about 15-plus nations who have contributed something to that partnership that makes it what it is today. If it not for the presence of the Russian's for example we would have the ISS in this form. If it were not for the Japanese and their incredible module Kebo, that is perhaps the best laboratory module on the ISS, it wouldn't be what it is today. It is a matter of trying to reach out and get the best out of all worlds, if you will, and there is much to be gained by drawing in the contributions that are possible from the Muslim nations."

I'd prefer if he used "Arabic nations" or "African nations" or other more geographic term if possible, it's (hopefully) not their religious beliefs that should motivate them to open their wallets.
 
Very good point. Maybe the Netherlands reaching the finals is messing with my negativity. I'll try to avoid that in the future.

No worries - after we thrash you on Sunday, I'm sure you'll be back to normal... :D

OT: The rest of the article (which Ziggy supplied :goodjob:) puts the whole thing into context. Speaking in Cairo, to Muslims, obviously the guy is trying to put a Muslim-friendly slant on things.

Leaving that out was slanting things, Amadeus. No cookie for you. :mad:

Edit: ... and this, after Fox slanted it's article in the first place, I see. Fox not conservative enough for you...?
 
You accidentally forgot to quote the whole article

Does the rest of the article change anything? Does it make the whole thing any less ridiculous? Of course not...
 
It's nice to see that Barack Obama is finally putting science back in its rightful place.
 
Does the rest of the article change anything? Does it make the whole thing any less ridiculous?
Does it provide more information? Am I a sucker for complete articles?
Of course not...
MobBoss taught you well :)

Why aren't you complaining about the thread title by the way?
It's nice to see that Barack Obama is finally putting science back in its rightful place.
O yeah, I forgot, this is why :)
 
If they lived in communist countries, wouldn't they have had to have been atheists then? :mischief:

Right... Christians and Jews in the USSR were all atheists too...

In any case, they'd still be considered culturally Muslim even if not practicing. And by the way, Mohammad Faris is Syrian.
 
Does the rest of the article change anything? Does it make the whole thing any less ridiculous? Of course not...

Well...

However, Bolden denied the suggestion that he was on a diplomatic mission -- in a distinctly non-diplomatic role.

"Not at all. It's not a diplomatic anything," he said.
 
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