Obamagate

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LucyDuke said:
What is? Nobody's explained what this thread is about.
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Huge, massive cover up over the fact that Obama said that it was an act of terror within 12 hours of the attack, Its a huge massive gate cover up of the recorded transcipt and tape of Obama actual words, not saying what the Republicans want him to not say. (i.e Death panels, fema concentration camps, keep government out of my medicare, the usual Republicans bubble)

or as Jon Stewart would put it "Bull[censored] mountain is high"

Former Alaskan governor Sarah Palin has a new Facebook post out, accusing President Obama of lying to the American people, using language deeply entwined with America’s Jim Crow past.

Titled “Obama’s Shuck and Jive Ends With Benghazi Lies,” Palin’s piece lays out how in her mind newly revealed emails concretely prove that the Obama administration has lied about the Sept. 11 attack against a U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya:

We now know that the State Department sent an email to the White House, the Pentagon, the FBI and others in the intelligence community about this Islamist group claiming responsibility. And yet for days afterwards the White House and State Department led everyone to believe that the attack was the result of a spontaneous protest over an obscure YouTube video that had been uploaded months prior. Anywhere from 300 to 400 people from the administration and our intelligence community would have seen that email. Why the lies? Why the cover up? Why the dissembling about the cause of the murder of our ambassador on the anniversary of the worst terrorist attacks on American soil? We deserve answers to this. President Obama’s shuck and jive shtick with these Benghazi lies must end.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2...era-phrase-to-describe-obamas-libya-response/
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FriendlyFire said:
Huge, massive cover up over the fact that Obama said that it was an act of terror within 12 hours of the attack, Its a huge massive gate cover up of the recorded transcipt and tape of Obama actual words, not saying what the Republicans want him to not say. (i.e Death panels, fema concentration camps, keep government out of my medicare, the usual Republicans bubble)

or as Jon Stewart would put it "Bull[censored] mountain is high"
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Thank you.

That's the stupidest goddamn thing I've heard since the last time Newt Gingrich opened his mouth. Y'all need something to pitch a Halloween fit about, hell, I like Obama and I could find something more outrageous than this garbage. You want credibility, step your game up.
 
I'd just like to remind people that Dommy wasn't exactly dismissive of the whole "OBAMAS A KENYAN MUSLIM" birther-crap, so this really isn't much of a suprise.
 
If Reagan didn't get impeached over any of his 3 acts of outright treason, why should Obama be impeached because some of the staff communications were confused, even though he himself had publicly given the correct answer twice within a day?
 
He sold American weapons to the Iranians, turned around and used that money to fund Nicaraguan terrorist insurgents, and repeatedly lied to Congress about it, even after they explicitly told him to stop through a law.

I'm not sure about the second act (unless Cutlass is counting the above as three acts), but I guess you could include the highly misleading sale of AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia, sales for a few planes which mysteriously included the funds to construct several massive military cities.
 
Cheezy the Wiz said:
He sold American weapons to the Iranians, turned around and used that money to fund Nicaraguan terrorist insurgents, and repeatedly lied to Congress about it, even after they explicitly told him to stop through a law.

I'm not sure about the second act (unless Cutlass is counting the above as three acts), but I guess you could include the highly misleading sale of AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia, sales for a few planes which mysteriously included the funds to construct several massive military cities.
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He sold grain to the Soviets at heavily subsidized prices, so in effect the US taxpayer was paying for Soviet missiles pointed at the US. He sold weapons to the Iranians, knowing that those weapons would be used against America and our allies. And he may have collaborated with Iran on the hostage release to embarrass a political opponent, even though he had no legal right to be involved in foreign affairs before he was sworn in.
 
Its kind of funny how conservatives were all about "Muslims are all a bunch of violent people who hate free speech" after the attack, and apparently "missed" all the times the Obama administration suggested it might have been a terrorist attack.
 
rugbyLEAGUEfan said:
Unfortunately I suspect this will be context free and thus completely unfunny to non Australians......but it's such a classic to us it has to be posted just for my countrymen.

Link to video.
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I didn't find it funny at all. I found it painful to watch - as in, it was like watching a car crash in slow motion. And I find it perfectly suited to this thread :lol:
 
JollyRoger said:
Obamahate
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Indeed. Don't you see? Obama is clearly responsible for the "fog of war" that typically follows any such attack, as well as the endless false speculation that countless Fox News talking heads and others did immediately afterwards. Being a black Muslim socialist president, he alone should have the omniscience to instantly know and identify anything which occurs, unlike any other president before him.

GhostWriter16 said:
What did Reagan do that was treasonous?
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Is nearly starting WWIII due to rekindling fear mongering and blind hatred of the Soviet Union, which had died down for decades, "treasonous"?

Is completely ingoring the AIDs epidemic for years because he and his advisors thought their god was merely seeking his vengeance against homosexuals "treasonous"?

Why do you hold Obama to such an obvious double standard?

Why is it that not reporting public tweets and Facebook entries made by a fringe Libyan group by the president an impeachable offence, but it is not even worth mentioning that no "media source" did either? Is it now his job to be the press as well? Should he start a 24/7 cable TV news channel to report everything any administration official may have seen in any of the countless memos and reports which get generated daily? Would anybody even watch it?
 
GhostWriter16 said:
Just when I was thinking that Obama might be better on foreign policy...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_1...hazi-attack-on-sept-11/?tag=AverageMixRelated

Despicable.

I don't know what to make of it. This certainly seems worthy of another Watergate, assuming the vibe I'm getting is accurate.

Should Obama be impeached? Removed? Incarcerated?

Discuss.
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He was clearly using the event as an opportunity to assail the poorly made anti-Islam movie "Innocence of Muslims"... but so what? He was trying to score points with the Islamic world so maybe they'd stop hating us...
I mean, if he reaches a few people that say, hey man, Obama condemned that film, good... Sometimes that is all people need. I know I would feel a lot happier if major Imams/Clerics/etc would come out and condemn terrorist attacks instead of by and large standing mute on the topic.

The film wasn't directly related, this attack was planned. However, indirectly, it was. It's just more fuel to the fire between them and the West.

What can we do?

Impeaching our President for using it as a ploy for geo-political gain isn't the answer.
 
kochman said:
The film wasn't directly related, this attack was planned. However, indirectly, it was. It's just more fuel to the fire between them and the West.
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Both of those are just sheer speculation at this stage. At present, it is the position of the administration that the attack was not planned. That it was "opportunistic" in that they apparently decided to do so after the embassy in Egypt was attacked, largely due to outrage over that film.

In other related news, a Tunisian has been arrested in Turkey on charges that he was involved in the attack.

Meanwhile, Libya continues to be an extremely violent country:

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Formaldehyde said:
Both of those are just sheer speculation at this stage.
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Ummm, no, it's been documented.
The planning was in advance, you don't just do something like this in a fundamentalist rage without planning and happen to kill the US Ambassador, and then have terrorist groups claiming responsibility.
And all this random occurence happening right on 9/11, amazing coincidence.

No leaps of faith needed here. Unlike the assumption that you swear is true, Israel attacked Sudan. :lol:

Get real.
 
VRWCAgent said:
I'm not going to tar and feather the administration for not taking a facebook proclamation as something to base anything on.
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It was made during the attack. Personally I'm more concerned with the fact that they had the ability to get a drone in the area to watch yet were unable to get military assets into the area to do anything about the situation.
 
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