Off topic - Civ BE on sale; worth it?
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Chefofrats
Prince
Having played almost all previous Civ games, I bought that game on some sale, played it once, got 30%+ achievments in that single game, never played it again. I found it less enjoyable that Civ V which I was playing regularly at the time. I recommend passing on it.
jozef57
Warlord
BE is great, i still play it,, i hope for a BE2
i think in Be they tried out a lot of stuff that came in and better in civ 6. so maybe they can repeat this with a BE@ which is like a new form of the colonization offsping of civ
i think in Be they tried out a lot of stuff that came in and better in civ 6. so maybe they can repeat this with a BE@ which is like a new form of the colonization offsping of civ
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Jigglewiggle
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The impossible to plan for nature of when the other civs arrive and where ruined the game for me. It was slower paced than Civ V which I was playing loads of at the time, which is fine, but when you plan plan plan for access to certain areas and then suddenly can't access them it's a bit less fun imo. You can see settlers coming in Civ and that's fine. But literally outposts and that out of nowhere is just frustrating.
Elhoim
Iron Tower Studio Dev
Definitely, but include the Rising Tide expansion.
iammaxhailme
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DJ_Tanner
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In a vacuum yes BE is worth it, RT makes it MUCH better.
However, BE is very similar in play to Civ and my bigget problem with the game is that I never want to sit down to a good Civ experience when I could play a great one instead. My hope is that a BE2 will really differentiate itself to give me a reason to play it over the more polished mechanics in the main series.
However, BE is very similar in play to Civ and my bigget problem with the game is that I never want to sit down to a good Civ experience when I could play a great one instead. My hope is that a BE2 will really differentiate itself to give me a reason to play it over the more polished mechanics in the main series.
AvianBritish
King
Yes. CivBERT (You need rising tide) was a great game. My only complaints is that every victory was a science victory apart from domination. The tech web was amazing but too easy to be-line a victory and avoid empire building (I found myself building a pretty empire without a care in the world until I get the first notification that the AI has progressed towards a victory condition - where I would then start to care about victory and would work towards it.)
The leaders were also quite fun, but also too safe; I wish they had some Sci-Fi style traditional music for each "faction" akin to the Atomic Era themes for Civ6 and maybe more unique art for each; perhaps a bit more personality and maybe even story. If they could put cinematics or story into XCOM2 that is quite randomly generated; they could of done the same with CivBE (they kinda did it with Pandora: First Contact if I recall).
Over all it was a great game which I would happily go back to and keep meaning to do so; I hope they do make a Civ BE2 as they can do so much more; especially with all of the new mechanics they've brought in Civ6 and it's expansions.
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Yes. Get CivBE with Rising Tide. It's a great game; just try to enjoy it and don't rush to victory.
The leaders were also quite fun, but also too safe; I wish they had some Sci-Fi style traditional music for each "faction" akin to the Atomic Era themes for Civ6 and maybe more unique art for each; perhaps a bit more personality and maybe even story. If they could put cinematics or story into XCOM2 that is quite randomly generated; they could of done the same with CivBE (they kinda did it with Pandora: First Contact if I recall).
Over all it was a great game which I would happily go back to and keep meaning to do so; I hope they do make a Civ BE2 as they can do so much more; especially with all of the new mechanics they've brought in Civ6 and it's expansions.
Short answer:
Yes. Get CivBE with Rising Tide. It's a great game; just try to enjoy it and don't rush to victory.
tedhebert
Emperor
As long as you understand you'll NOT be getting a real space 4X game, a la MOO/Alpha centauri/Gal Civ/endless space/stellaris, but rather just another CIV game in a scifi setting, then yes the game is interesting.
OmegaDestroyer
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Yes but with the above-mentioned caveat of getting Rising Tide as well. It really opens up the game.
Rising Tide definitely makes a lot of the game better (and early game exploration fun in a way I haven't really had in any Civ. game since SMAC), and at this stage I'd never recommend buying just the base game for a game this old. Same for Civ 5, or Stellaris, or whatever. Always get whatever expansion packs you can, especially if they're on offer.
I enjoyed BE a lot. It had a lot of functional similarities to CiV, but there's a lot in there that's trying something new as well. Even if you get 40 hours out of it, that's a great return on the current collection deal (£11.74 at the moment), but I think most people could get more than that, especially with mods. I don't really rate hours played as a major metric, but plenty of folks do.
I enjoyed BE a lot. It had a lot of functional similarities to CiV, but there's a lot in there that's trying something new as well. Even if you get 40 hours out of it, that's a great return on the current collection deal (£11.74 at the moment), but I think most people could get more than that, especially with mods. I don't really rate hours played as a major metric, but plenty of folks do.
Sostratus
Deity
It's on the same engine as civ5, and has a lot of similar systems.
BUT, they also used it as a test bed for a lot of ideas that ended up in civ6.
This includes stuff like making ranged units vulnerable to melee attacks, and making trade routes per city instead of per civ.
It's got some really interesting inversion of traditional civ rules too.
Why have we hisotircally only had the ability to run gold and science projects? Why not a food project?
Why not have coastal cities and an entire system around that?
The diplomatic capital System in Rising tide is also pretty cool.
It's actually a good scifi game, the biggest complaint I had about it (i played well over 100 hours) was that the story wasn't really there. The designers had this idea that if they made too much narrative, then they would hem in the emergent story of each game. The problem is that is you don't flesh out the universe and the factions deeply, then the story doesn't really emerge because it's just a game with players who happen to have different colors.
If it's cheap and you really like scifi and civ, it's probably worth checking out. I really liked a lot of the art and music!
BUT, they also used it as a test bed for a lot of ideas that ended up in civ6.
This includes stuff like making ranged units vulnerable to melee attacks, and making trade routes per city instead of per civ.
It's got some really interesting inversion of traditional civ rules too.
Why have we hisotircally only had the ability to run gold and science projects? Why not a food project?
Why not have coastal cities and an entire system around that?
The diplomatic capital System in Rising tide is also pretty cool.
It's actually a good scifi game, the biggest complaint I had about it (i played well over 100 hours) was that the story wasn't really there. The designers had this idea that if they made too much narrative, then they would hem in the emergent story of each game. The problem is that is you don't flesh out the universe and the factions deeply, then the story doesn't really emerge because it's just a game with players who happen to have different colors.
If it's cheap and you really like scifi and civ, it's probably worth checking out. I really liked a lot of the art and music!
Bibor
Doomsday Machine
Let me describe how I feel about Beyond Earth gameplay.
There's a tile that yields 2 something.
You need a 100 of something to do anything.
You research a tech that unlocks an improvement for that tile.
You make a worker.
You improve the tile.
Congratulations, that tile now yields 3 something.
It can yield 4 something if you make a building. That's 20 techs away. And costs a 100 of something.
I'd rather watch grass grow than play BE. It's not far off.
Yes, I'm spoiled by Alpha Centauri. That repository of a hundred of brilliant experimental ideas that pretty much included in rudimentary form everything we like about Civ games in the last two decades.
There's a tile that yields 2 something.
You need a 100 of something to do anything.
You research a tech that unlocks an improvement for that tile.
You make a worker.
You improve the tile.
Congratulations, that tile now yields 3 something.
It can yield 4 something if you make a building. That's 20 techs away. And costs a 100 of something.
I'd rather watch grass grow than play BE. It's not far off.
Yes, I'm spoiled by Alpha Centauri. That repository of a hundred of brilliant experimental ideas that pretty much included in rudimentary form everything we like about Civ games in the last two decades.
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