On the addition of Dinosaurs.

[Bibor]

As amusing as the salt would be over such a mechanic, I can't envision any major US publisher actually daring to do it.

Fixed it for ya

 

[dexters]

Any evidence or trace of that? Somewhere? And who was that our common ancestor? There are more mammals in the world. Did they evolve from the same ancestor?



But they do; they dump us with some dinosaurs' like teasers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Before_Homo

Species close to the last common ancestor of gorillas, chimpanzees and humans may be represented by Nakalipithecus fossils found in Kenya and Ouranopithecus found in Greece. Molecular evidence suggests that between 8 and 4 million years ago, first the gorillas, and then the chimpanzees (genus Pan) split off from the line leading to the humans. Human DNA is approximately 98.4% identical to that of chimpanzees when comparing single nucleotide polymorphisms (see human evolutionary genetics). The fossil record, however, of gorillas and chimpanzees is limited; both poor preservation—rain forest soils tend to be acidic and dissolve bone—and sampling bias probably contribute to this problem.

Fixed it for ya

Is there a lot of large publishers outside the US making creationist 4x games?

 

[Erudain]

Not only this, but you'll also have Creationism civic which allows you to destroy enemy dinosaur skeletons by claiming them fake. The more skeletons you destroy that way, the more points you get towards building Ark, which lets you win religious victory once the world is flooded by the wrath of God.

Hey that would really be a cool feature, you can use your missioner/inquisitors to destroy skeletons, each skeleton destroyed gives your civ a +faith bonus, when enough faith is reached the great prophet Ken Ham spawns in your capital, UA boost empire wide faith but reduces science and kids literacy levels.

 

[awesome]

Why would anybody want to look away from the Dinosaurs sitcom. I'm a dinosaur-kin, and I'm triggered.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Fixed it for ya

True, I might be missing major game publishers elsewhere because I don't have experience with their tendencies.

Context matters too, the more over-the-top and nonsensical the game in general is, the more you can get away with doing before people get too salty because only the most uptight would take it seriously. I suspect something making a parody of religion would be taken better in a game like Magicka than Civilization, as the former is straight nonsense start to finish anyway.

OP state of having vs not having probably just means it's one of several things you can stuff in a museum for a bonus.

 

[shaglio]

OP state of having vs not having probably just means it's one of several things you can stuff in a museum for a bonus.

Or that the graphics are still in flux and are a continuing work in progress.

 

[CupHead5998]

Not only this, but you'll also have Creationism civic which allows you to destroy enemy dinosaur skeletons by claiming them fake. The more skeletons you destroy that way, the more points you get towards building Ark, which lets you win religious victory once the world is flooded by the wrath of God.

M'lady

 

[darko82]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#Before_Homo

Hell yeah, what is life? Where does it come from? Nor Wikipeida or a Civilization game can ever explain that I know one thing, though. I will play civ games till I die.

 

[Mustakrakish]

So this time around museums come in two flavors. With & without dinosaurs. As dinosaurs are the variable it stands to reason that their presence signifies some unknown mechanic. Likely you can stick dinosaur bones in Great Work slots. But is that it? Is it as simple as sticking "Dinosaur Bones (1)" into a museum & getting a bonus. Would their be no mechanic for actively searching/trading for a full set of "Brachiosaur Bones (skull, body, tail)." It'd be a sensible way of utilizing a theming bonus mechanic. Would there only be one dinosaur? Could it not be that different continents are home to specific type of dinosaur? One full set per continent? Brachiosaur on Lumeria, Tyranosaur on Atlantis, Triceratops on Detroitium? Would this not be true to life? And what of 1993? Could it be that in the Information Age you can spawn a Michael Crichton Great Writer? & could it be that he can write a Great Work that spawns a Great Scientist BD Wong and Great Actor Richard Attenborough? & could it be that you can burn these two people to discover the technology of dinosaur cloning? & could it be that once researched you can build battle-raptors and triceratops cavalry? Could it be that later on in the tech tree you can discover the technology of "Jurassic Park 5" & use gene splicing to turn your leader and population into half person half tyranosaur? Could it be that that is a reworked diplomacy victory? Do you eat your rivals to win now? Could it be that if you send your Dino-civ to Alpha Centauri a pop-up appears saying "play Civ BE now & when you click it your computer shuts down and the 90s sitcom The Dinosaurs starts playing on your tv and you can't look away and you want to look away but it won't let you look away

Well that escalated quickly...

 

[m15a]

Wait . . this thread was started before the Civilization twitter account tweeted about dinosaurs earlier today?

The tweet time says 11:21 AM and the first post in the this thread was at 10:50 AM. Is that coincidence, or did Firaxis post the article somewhere else first, or...?

 

[Eklabiaan]

Wait . . this thread was started before the Civilization twitter account tweeted about dinosaurs earlier today?

The tweet time says 11:21 AM and the first post in the this thread was at 10:50 AM. Is that coincidence, or did Firaxis post the article somewhere else first, or...?

Ahh they planted false evidence.

Or, or .. this is a hint at a new Great Work: The X-files. If you place them in the Dinosour museum all will be explained...
But that wil take at least 42 turns.

 

[moysturfurmer]

Some guy on the Reddit thread about the tweet points out that the tweet about Sea-based Archaelogy was posted after there was a popular thread about that very subject, so it's possible that the Firaxis/2k social media guy posts these clues based on what the community is talking about.

Well either that, or maybe I'M the Firaxis/2k social media guy.

 

[m15a]

Some guy on the Reddit thread about the tweet points out that the tweet about Sea-based Archaelogy was posted after there was a popular thread about that very subject, so it's possible that the Firaxis/2k social media guy posts these clues based on what the community is talking about.

But are they clues or trolling? Either way, , Firaxis/2k social media guy.

 

[bonafide11]

This thread is crazy. I can't figure out if I am missing something or if everyone is just reading way too much into things.

Is there actually ANY evidence at all that dinosaurs are included in Civ VI other than a tweet referencing a news story about dinosaurs? I would not read too much into the Twitter feed for Civ news.

 

[m15a]

One of the screenshot had a dinosaur skeleton near the museum. That's all the evidence I think.

 

[Acken]

But monkeys are still giving birth to monkey why don't they give birth to a human today?

That's something that evolutionists have never been able to answer.

How can monkeys exist today if we evolved from them?

Like monkeys we are primates. We did not evolved from modern days monkeys but from a far ancestor having primate characteristics.
No species give birth to another species. It's like saying a drop of 0.01 degree is going from hot to cold. The common ancestor did not give birth to a human and a monkey.
Each individual is slightly different from its parents. These mutations and selection is what creates evolution and branching species.

Any evidence or trace of that? Somewhere? And who was that our common ancestor? There are more mammals in the world. Did they evolve from the same ancestor?

The common ancestor denomination is misleading I think. If you picture it as a single individual making the two branch you're mistaken. It's the result of a group that through reproduction and selection developed human characteristics overtime while for some reason (often geographic) another evolved into monkeys.
It's also worrth mentioning that there is not a single branch leading to today's results. There are multiple splits leading to us and creating other "human" species that went extinct. There are also multiple splits leading to different monkey species (some went extinct, other we see today).
The further you go back based on the fossils we found, the harder it becomes to draw a line and say what is or is not human (and please note that the alternative is not monkey !).

We also do not have a full record over the hundreds of millions of years (and never will). The theory of evolution is certainly not a complete story of who is the ancestor of whom. This is why it's an active field of research since trying to make it out based on datation and fossils is not an easy task. And to be more precise, the theory is not the story. The theory is about the process that explains the observations. These observations are like partial pictures of the story.

 

[Browd]

Moderator Action: OK, it's time to stop derailing this thread with discussion of creationism, evolutionary theory and other non-game topics. If you want to discuss those topics, you can visit the OT, World History or Science & Technology forums, or any other forum where those topics are on-topic. But they are off-topic here.

 

[Redaxe]

Like monkeys we are primates. We did not evolved from modern days monkeys but from a far ancestor having primate characteristics.
No species give birth to another species. It's like saying a drop of 0.01 degree is going from hot to cold. The common ancestor did not give birth to a human and a monkey.
Each individual is slightly different from its parents. These mutations and selection is what creates evolution and branching species.



The common ancestor denomination is misleading I think. If you picture it as a single individual making the two branch you're mistaken. It's the result of a group that through reproduction and selection developed human characteristics overtime while for some reason (often geographic) another evolved into monkeys.
It's also worrth mentioning that there is not a single branch leading to today's results. There are multiple splits leading to us and creating other human species that went extinct. There are also multiple splits leading to different monkey species.
The further you go back based on the fossils we found, the harder it becomes to draw a line and say what is or is not human (and please note that the alternative is not monkey !).

I know lol i was just being an idiot before. By the way that joke I made about monkeys giving birth to humans - well it was used by the notorious creationist Kent Hovind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb_1UchyKqc

 

[AriochIV]

Okay, here's my guess for what the dinosaur bones represent:

There may be a Paleontology feature which operates essentially the same way as Archaeology does in Civ V: the world is dotted with dig sites which you must excavate with Paleontologist units (which operate just like Archaeologist units), generating Dinosaur Bones which operate just like Great Works and must be slotted into Museums etc., and perhaps generate Science and Tourism.

Archaeology and Paleontology could operate side by side.

Eh?

 

[dexters]

Okay, here's my guess for what the dinosaur bones represent:

There may be a Paleontology feature which operates essentially the same way as Archaeology does in Civ V: the world is dotted with dig sites which you must excavate with Paleontologist units (which operate just like Archaeologist units), generating Dinosaur Bones which operate just like Great Works and must be slotted into Museums etc., and perhaps generate Science and Tourism.

Eh?

Quoting myself from earlier before the thread got derailed

We had archeology in BNW, I can see it being folder into with Palaeontology or Palaeontology will be its own thing.

One example:
Archaeology > culture path
Palaeontoloy > science path

Alternatively
Artworks and dino bones come from the same unit and just provide different bonuses.