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OP01 - Who wants to be a Malionaire?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by omni_paul, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    Background:

    I've recently been playing a lot of MP games as Mansa Musa of Mali and grew curious about this African leader about whom I knew nothing. Wikipedia came to my aid, as it often does:

    Mansa Musa
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    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Mansa Kankan Musa I or Mansa Musa or The Lion of Mali was a 14th century king of the Mali Empire. He is remembered for his fabled hajj and as a benefactor of Islamic scholarship.

    Mansa Musa was the grandson of the founder of the Mali's Empire, Sundiata Keita, and ruled over Mali while it was the source of almost half the world's gold. Musa was a devoted Muslim and Islamic scholarship flourished under his rule. With Musa as a benefactor, Sankore University in Timbuktu reached its height. Craftsmen and especially Islamic scholars came from all over the Muslim world to receive a free education at Sankore's guilds and madrasas.

    When he passed through Cairo in 1324, he gave out so much gold that it took 12 years for the economy to recover, due to the rapid inflation that it initiated. The Arab historian al-Umari records that Musa was so generous that he ran out of money and had to take out a loan to be able to afford the journey home. Musa's hajj, and especially his gold, caught the attention of both the Islamic and Christian worlds.
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    The Variant:

    In this game we will take control of Mansa Musa of the Malinese. Preferably on an Earth map if a reasonable one can be found, otherwise a continents map will suffice. I want to keep the rules as non-restrictive as possible, more what we will attempt is a roleplay style variant as follows:

    • Our starting position MUST contain at least one gold resource. This will, naturally, be my responsibility to keep rolling starts until we get one.
    • We will at all times make a reasonable attempt to control at least half of the known world's gold mines. Once we control its mining, we are free to trade it away, but we must be in control of at least half of the mines. If this means war, so be it.
    • We will build monastaries and universities as soon as it is practical to do so.
    • We must found, adopt and spread Islam. If we do not, we lose.

    Other than that, it's a 'just win' approach.

    The Settings:

    • Difficulty: Prince.
    • Map Type: Earth or Continents (up for discussion).
    • Map Size: Standard.
    • Civ: Uh... Mali?
    • Barbs: On, standard.
    • Victory: All enabled.
    • Opponents: Standard for the map size, must include Egypt.

    The Players:
    1. Omni Paul
    2. TomPW
    3. Sand
    4. n0xie
    5. jeejeep
    6. Strauss

    Alternates:

    Pholkhero
    Talamane

    Noble/Prince level players encouraged. Standard SG ettiquete applies (24 got it / 48 post - ask for a skip rather than going AWOL).

    Do YOU want to be a Malionaire?
     
  2. GreyFox

    GreyFox Make it so ...

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    No answering of 10 questions with 3 lifelines? :lol:

    Not a sign-up, I am already at overdraft with my Civ4 time.
     
  3. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Overly committed? I've only been committed once. It was nice. Padded room all to my self. The electric shocks sort of sucked, but the meds more than made up for it. Did you know, if you hold really still, you can get a drool strand to go all the way to the floor?

    Anyway, like Fox, I'm a bit taxed ATM. Sorry. Definitely lurking, though.
     
  4. dawn

    dawn Redophile

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    Followed you over from Queen Mother SG. I'll continue to lurk here. Looking forward to another good SG!

    <Lurk mode - on>
     
  5. TomPW

    TomPW Chieftain

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    I'd like to sign up - this sounds like good fun.

    Tom
     
  6. chriseay

    chriseay The Master Trader

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    Just wanted to put in that this'll be a fun one, sorta along the lines of my Sun Never Sets game. Be careful on the earth map though, as it runs slowly no matter what you do.....but it does make for a real fun game.

    I'll be lurking.
     
  7. sand

    sand under the sun

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    i'll sign up if you don't mind a guy on noble dificulty who has only played civ for less than a month, completed 5 1/2 full games and never played an SG before.
    but appart from that i'm ready to make the jump to prince so put me last.
    i also think that this game will be farly easy since gold mine's provide huge commerce and the leaders finacial. it does seem hard to found islam though and especially spread the last religion.
    BTW I am GMT and should be able to play between 4pm and 11pm
     
  8. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Lurk:

    I'll back up what Chris said. I'm in his British Empire game. Slowest...turns...ever. On a huge map (which the Earth map is), you have more cities, more units, more workers, more civs to constantly check on.

    Make sure, if you play that map, that all involved have a nice box to play it on. And even if the machine can handle it. All the MM involved in the industrial age is pretty overwhelming.

    Edit: Oh, and it does sound really fun for anyone else who might be on the fence.
     
  9. n0xie

    n0xie OCC-addict

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    Well I'll just follow you around on all SG's Omni_Paul so consider me in... If you'll have me obviously ;)
     
  10. jeejeep

    jeejeep qwertyuiop

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    I'll play if you'll have me. I definitely prefer continents over earth
     
  11. Strauss

    Strauss King

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    Signing up as well:) I would also suggest taking continents over Earth, although that might take away a bit from the game. I'm in either way though
     
  12. ·Imhotep·

    ·Imhotep· Legendary Builder

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    @paul:

    I will be lurking in this one. I can't play it - Mansa is my chief foe in all of my games. To play actually with him would be like the pope wearing pentagrams on his mitra. ;) :)

    LT
     
  13. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    ahhh, f- it...my kids don't need THAT much attention

    sign me up, baby, sign me up!

    edit: will we know beforehand (via WorldBuilder) how many gold's are out there??

    edit2:
    Mansu Musa of Mali.

    Financial:
    Spiritual:

    Skirmisher

    Mining
    The Wheel

    So, start position, aussie??
     
  14. Qwack

    Qwack The Poopman

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    Thats the spirit :lol:

    Ill be lurking this one, very nice variant omni, but unfortunately im too preoccupied with other stuff for the next few weeeks.
     
  15. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    I can volunteer to be your "world builder guy" if you need someone to check/alter goldmine locations. Can't promise I'd refrain from pranking, though. ;)
     
  16. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    Excellent. I've edited the top post to include the roster, and it looks like we have a healthy compliment of lurkers :).

    Pholk, I've put you down as an alternate for now, as we have 6 already, but if the group thinks we can run with 7 (might be a good idea considering we all have lots of SGs on the go, and this is epic speed), then I'll happily add you in as 7.

    EVERYONE IN THE ROSTER, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'VE SUBSCRIBED TO THE THREAD :D

    As for the map, I'm leaning toward a standard continents map for performance reasons. As for world building, I don't think it's necessary, we can just make a rule that at the end of each turnset the player looks around and counts up all visible gold resources. If malicontrolled < (totalgold)/2 then warmode=on :)
     
  17. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    So no pranking? :(




    ...sniff


    :(
     
  18. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    I suppose it depends on what level of pranking you're contemplating :) Anything that would ruin the game is out, but I might consider letting you place some harmless easter eggs :)
     
  19. Rex Tyrannus

    Rex Tyrannus 280lbs of gross stupidity

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    Harmless to whom?
     
  20. omni_paul

    omni_paul Mr. Shambles

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    By the way I'll roll some starts tonight on standard continents maps, unless you guys think there's a workable smaller earth map around. Will post starting position screenshot in about 8 hours.
     

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