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Open Role Play Challenge: Barbarric Monty

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by madscientist, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Ignorant Teacher

    Ignorant Teacher Emperor

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    Played a long segment now.

    Spoiler :

    First of all, we're informed that our science is state of the art:




    I think that StuntedAzrael might have a point when he says that it gets too easy with the Great Wall. When I finish this, I believe I'll do it again without the Wall.

    And the Wonder Spamming continued. First we got



    which gave us the following options:



    I picked Code of Laws because we needed the happy faces and a shrine here would be huge, so



    A while later a Great Prophet popped and we used him to build the Kong Miao.

    Right after the Oracle we completed



    Our names may spell backwards, but we sure are classy:




    Remember I had said that the generals had yet to be born? Not anymore.



    Poor Charlie...



    And the wonders keep coming:











    Our economy was a disaster, so a small force was assembled to send a sign of dominance to the barbs:



    We razed two of them, which gave us some room to research. I lost the Hanging Gardens to someone, so I had to build the Sistine Chapel and the Hagia Sophia in other cities. We didn't found Christianity, but we're now on a strong religious economy, because









    When I saw this coming I researched Meditation and whipped a temple and a monastery in all of my cities. Now the Aztecs have room to expand.

    One of the biggest problems we faced was the lack of happy resources and there's not much to be done with a senate and no king. So there was a huge random event:



    that we completed



    I was tempted to trigger a Golden Age, but decided to get the extra happy faces to grow some more.

    As I started exploring the south, I saw it was huge, so I decided to delay the construction of the Forbidden Palace until the definitive shape of the empire got clearer, but I had popped an engineer and had some trees to chop so I built one of my favorite wonders:



    I don't know why people don't like Versailles very much. I try to build it in all of my games. I hardly ever build the Spiral Minaret on the other hand. Most of the time, if you can land Versailles and the Forbidden Palace in nice spots you can keep running Free Market even without being Organized.

    Then, the supermedics kept coming. Gotta love them Jags because they save you Great Generals for better uses:



    I already have three of them. I would have the fourth but he died when attacking an archer on flat land with 92% odds...

    So until now we've had 2 Great Scientists, one was for the academy and the other was settled, 4 Great Prophets, so we have the Kong Miao and the Masjid Al Haram and the others were settled, 1 settled Great Spy, 2 Great Engineers, one settled and the other hurried Versailles, and the free artist from Music.

    Our capital looks like this:



    I'm currently researching Philosophy to see if I can still build the Angkor Wat. Taoism is gone, BTW.

    Oh, almost forgot! We aren't so stupid anymore!



    Demographics:



    Wonders:



    VCs:



    Culture is too far away and I think it's usually boring. I've never won Conquest...


    Mad, how do you expect us to work this wheat?!?

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  2. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    Ignorant

    Spoiler :


    Nice play there Ignorant. Wonderspam extraordinary!

    Sorry about the wheat. One of my first Worldbuild attempts :lol:. Consider it an open RPC spelling mistake!


     
  3. Matthew5117

    Matthew5117 Emperor

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    Mad, if I am correct, your able to Unreveal all tiles to take away the starting spot.

    As a side note however, you do realize that without the player's prescene in the old world, the AI's closest to the player's original starting position will have more room?
     
  4. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    Why yes, perhaps one AI has a little edge, perhaps not.
     
  5. Volapyk

    Volapyk Warlord

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    Hmm sounds like a rather "easy" RPC, shouldn't there have been some sort of role play restrictions to make it more interesting?

    As it is now we have an entire continent all to our self with AI's constantly beating each other up which should leave them way behind.

    Might give it a go out of curiosity though :)
     
  6. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    Since I am not playing the game, I decided to limit any rules. It is an open game so I suggest people make their own rules (and break them!) as they go along!

    Don't get me wrong, there will be rules/goals/play-styles in other open games, but I Thought the first (OK, second after the Great Khan) should be a little freer.

    Besides, the other continent has alot of morons noone likes, feel free to use the easyness of the challenge and smash heads!
     
  7. Ignorant Teacher

    Ignorant Teacher Emperor

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    Played a short segment now.

    Spoiler :

    Was exploring the second part of the continent when I found this



    Jackpot! An undefended barb city with bananas, rice and clam! That clam will be off line for a long time though.

    Found another barb city. Is it also undefended?




    Uh... Nevermind...

    One more wonder in the capital



    and we finally met the rest of the world:




    He traded me a map and that's what it looks like:




    Part of Zululand




    Alex took a big beating



    Sal's lands




    Scandinavia




    Japan




    Byzantium

    Forgot to take a screenshot of Mongolia, but they're quite small.

    Alex and Justi are Ragnar's vassals. Rags already has banking and gunpowder and Sal has Education. The worst part of no tech trading is that you only know what they have if you have enough espionage. For some weird reason, I'm the one who has spent more espionage points in the whole history. I mean, I know I was generating all those espionage points, but to spy on what? The clams from Tlaxcala?!?

    I was wondering, is it possible to win the AP victory by voting myself? I'm sending a couple of missionaries to all of them and would like to get this over with. My PC is not being able to handle the game now. In any case, I started building trebs and am also keeping track of all the AIs to see if I can get steel from lib. If I can't, it will be Astro.

    Right now we're about to complete the Notre Dame in Tenochtitlan and will begin the Taj. With it and a random Great Person I'll have a 48 turns Golden Age, which will let me finish my invasion party of the old world.

    The situation at the save:




    Power's rising because of the Trebs I've been building.



    and cities:




    I could say this game's won. I would go for Ragnar first, vassal him and destroy his vassals. Liberate his cities, vassal Toku, then Shaka and, finally, Saladin. What do you think?

    I'd rather do the AP win though because the above would take too long. Gotta get more RAM and a video card!
     

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  8. AlejDuke

    AlejDuke Chieftain

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    Hello,

    I would like to join in and play this game but for some reason my civ game crashes when i hit the play scenario/custom scenario ... i even reinstalled with the same effect, and reason as to why?
     
  9. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    I am uncertain. I usually just double click on the downloaded file.
     
  10. Quaren

    Quaren Chieftain

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    Got the exact same problem as you. Had to play it by opening the save but that didn't let me use BUG.
     
  11. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    Not sure what's up. I have been unable to play scenario's for a while, I thought it was a problem with a mod I made. I am going to unload and reinstall the CIV game, maybe that will fix it.
     
  12. gskyes

    gskyes Warlord

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    I had troubles getting this to work, too. It was also crashing my game when I chose custom game. But I got it to work. What you need to do:

    Follow Mad's instructions in the second post, especially the part about double-clicking the file. Select your settings and start the game, then save the game and exit. Remove the file from your world builder save folder (so it doesn't crash any more). Then open Civ4 and load like normal.
     
  13. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    For the record, I uninstalled and then reinstalled the entire CIV game system, including adding BUG 3.6 and the latest patch (3.19??). I can now open scenarios as normal, not sure where the problem came from.

    All future open RPCs will be made after I reloaded my games, with the exception of the next one which is going to be downloaded as a game, not a worldbuild.

    Sorry for any problems.
     
  14. IPEX-731BA5DD06

    IPEX-731BA5DD06 Deity

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    @ mad
    Spoiler :
    , have you been doing more then adding extra jungle to the map, I've got a Rice on a grassland floodplain, giving 6 food, just with a border pop.

    Spoiler :


    So I suppose there are other little gems we can expect to find.

     
  15. IPEX-731BA5DD06

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    Barbaric Monty Check point 1


    I settle in place


    Spoiler :
    the two scouts go of scouting the lands, I plan to pop the huts with culture from cities. 1 scout has been attacked by a lion, surviving, with the other attacked by a wolf.


    I've scouted down to panama site, where mountains block further passage, I'm currently uncovering the rest of the northern part of the land mass.


    Initial builds are; worker, 2nd worker once I encompass the flood plains + grassland rice with 6 food WITHOUT Agriculture :wow:, then warrior till size 4 then settler. 1st worker goes to mine the grassland hill, while awaiting bronze working to chop out extra workers.


    I've scouted out the land mass, here's a long range shot.


    Barbaric Monty Check point 1



    Spoiler :



    and one with prospective city sites.
    Spoiler :






    all subject to resources being revealed, and whims off mine.
     
  16. Ignorant Teacher

    Ignorant Teacher Emperor

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    Almost done now.

    Spoiler :

    So, we begin by completing one more wonder in Tenochtitlan.





    and then starting a golden age with a Prophet.





    A while later, our golden age gets 24 turns longer





    And 24 more.


    In the meantime, we are first to Liberalism and, for the first time in my life, steel is what we choose. We complete researching Rifling and Astronomy. Time to switch civics and turn off research:




    I intended to vassal Saladin, then Toku and be able to vassal the rest quicly because of their shared borders, but Toku doesn't agree. He decides to get himself a colony:



    Dont know what order of attacks now, except for the first one: Sal! So we declare war on him with two stacks:
    One in the south:



    And one in the north:




    Poor Sal! He chose to improve his people's quality of life by researching Democracy... History is sometimes so unforgiving, huh?

    Power:



    At this point the only thing that can cost the victory is choosing to attack the AIs in the wrong order. BTW, you can't vote yourself Pope. Wasted some missionaries...
     

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  17. JTMacc99

    JTMacc99 That's a paddlin'

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    Checking in at Prince/Epic. (Should've gone with Monarch, but I'm not used to three of the settings (large map, raging barbs and aggressive AI.)

    Going to establish at least one rule, maybe more once I think about it: Regardless of how cultured we may seem to be, we're going to hold on to slavery until somebody builds the United Nations.

    Spoiler :
    Well, I after I settled the first city (went South to be ready to build a galley and start exploring below the mountains, and color me surprised when the first barb warrior spawned and strolled directly in to my territory for an attack on the capital. I guess that's part of the raging barbs, eh? Fortunately, it died and I had enough units to protect my workers who were furiously working to connect the stone. Not too long after that, I built the GW and life went back to normal.

    From there, and I'll expand on this a little more later when I have some time, I played a lot like Ignorant Teacher did. Figured what the heck, and build Stonehenge and the Pyramids. Also built eventually were the Great Lighthouse, the ToA, and The Oracle.

    Since it's my favorite, and this land is ideal for it, I'm looking at a full blown cottage economy. A side effect of this is that i've kind of dropped the ball with making the most of Representation, but even so, I ran enough specialists to grab CoL as my second religion (grabbed Hinduism right off the bat, which I only did because this is Prince and I knew I was isolated) right before I completed the Oracle. Amusingly enough, this allowed me to take Civil Service from the Oracle, so the capital has become quite a powerhouse.

    Lastly, I ended up sending two stacks of Jags down below the mountains to scout. All of the hut-popping helped fund my research for a LONG time.

    I left off at 1000AD, having just met Shaka and Charlie with my first Caravels. I didn't even get a chance to check out the tech situation with them yet, but given my ability to build whatever wonder I want, I'm going to assume they're not doing so well.

    Hopefully I will get some time tonight to grab a few screenshots to show you what I'm up to and maybe formulate a plan on what the heck I should do from here. (I think I'd like to become the world's one and only economic superpower, and then go on a Borg-like assimilation run through the old world when I can field some fast moving troops.
     
  18. JTMacc99

    JTMacc99 That's a paddlin'

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    With a couple of pictures at 1000AD.

    Spoiler :
    So, I've settled nine cities at this point on the top section of land. I have 5 more dot-mapped out up there, but will probably only add the three along the northern coast, and realistically, probably only do the one in the NE corner to get the crabs before starting to settle the next land mass below the mountains.



    By the way, Monty is a big Simpsons fan, especially of Mr. Burns, so he's renamed all of those hard to pronounce cites after members of the Simpson family. The next land mass will probably be after locations from the show.

    The worst thing so far about the cities is that I didn't really settle a perfect production city early on. The newest city, Selma, probably would have been a fine HE city had I not just settled it, so I'm not really sure where to build the HE now that it is available to me. Other than that, they are mostly well fed and well cottaged sites. I think that the Atzec civilization will be known as a highly prosperous and advanced civilization, despite their tendency to sacrifice population for the good of the empire well into modern times.

    Like I said before, I did a lot of the same thing that Ignorant Teacher did with the wonders. There is at least one or two more in other cities. Next up here will be the Great Library and then the National Epic.



    Like I said in my first post, my cottage economy hasn't played well with the pyramids, as I've not really run many extra specialists.

    Lastly, I completely forgot about the no tech trading option, and therefore skipped several useful techs on my way to pick up compass and optics. I figured that I could back-fill the old stuff once I took a look around, even if the other guys are going to be predisposed to hate me and are not particularly good researchers. Oops. Looks like I better get my butt in gear on the old stuff. As you can see, I passed over calendar several times, despite the fact that it will give me spices. I also skipped some really useful religious techs, which is extra dumb since I can switch in and out of civics anarchy free.

    Anyway, the deal is, I'm at nine cities and am about to go on another expansion spree. I'm pretty sure I'll have enough Alters built to be ready to slap up the forbidden palace fairly quickly once I get a couple cities running in the middle landmass. I'm hoping to have about 16-20 cities when I hit democracy. If all goes according to plan, I'll be well into the twenties of home-grown cities when the world will bow before me.

    I guess we'll see how it goes....
     
  19. Ignorant Teacher

    Ignorant Teacher Emperor

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    Mad, I'll have to wait for the weekend to finish this. Is that alright?
     
  20. madscientist

    madscientist RPC Supergenius

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    It's your guys game! I am merely the host!
     

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