Other Wonders

[Spillsandstains]

DEFENSIVE WONDER i think this has been done already - or similar - for a wonder called 'the labyrinth'. enemies adjacent to city get x damage, Hrochland ade some great art for it - I mean, how do you represent a labyrinth in civ4? He managed it

RE: National Wonder increase - i saw a wonder effect that increased national unit counts, thought it might be the same kind case for buildings ... shows how much i know!

Some sort of Maginot Line/ Gorgan Wall effect where any enemies crossing your borders take damage, or, probably better, get a reduced movement allowance on that turn (useful only if you've got a huge variety of movement in your units, and a map so vast it's relevant)

connected but not quite the same - an extends - beyond - the - FOW warning system to warn of naval invasions ("Cinque ports"?), or a similar one for land units "enemy x has 50 land units within x tiles of your border". I' pretty sure the latter might have been fixed in a mod (via automatic patrols), not sure about the latter.

Interested in a mechanism that mitigates against stacks of doom, never been able to find a generalized "count number enemy units on same tile" function.

 

[Underdog Ally]

I would like to share a few wonders I created in my personal mod:

Arms Exporter:

Available pretty cheap once rifling is researched. It produces a unique resource called firearms. This can be traded or used to created a national limit of 8 Jaeger (riflemen), 4 field guns (cannons) and 4 Hussar (cavalry) without any technology requirements. The cannons and hussar do not require iron or horse, just the firearms. You can give (or sell) the firearms as a strategic resource to friendly or “enemy of my enemy” civilizations to arm them without permanently giving them any technology. For example, your biggest rival invades a small country and you want to help slow them down. But you give the underdog some free technology just for them to capitulate 2-3 turns later. This way you temporarily grant them weapons but without any permanent tech, and can also cancel the trade to disarm them.

 

[Underdog Ally]

I have desired for civ trade economics to be a bit more involved rather than just having open borders = trade routes. Behold ,

East India Company

Available at optics, requires harbor, +50% production speed with spices.

This wonder grants the city +1 trade routes and creates a resource called Tea. Kind of like Broadway plays etc. However you only get 3 tea which is a +1 health resource. It doesn’t provide a second health bonus with any buildings, just the base +1. The other 2 tea are only worth anything if you can trade them for resources you don’t have , or some extra gold. You can also make a grand total of 1 “trader” unit, which is like a baby great merchant that gives a few hundred or so gold from a trade mission.

I also made a twin/reciprocal wonder called The Black Market (+50% production with silver) which provides 3 opium (+1 happy) and can train 1 smuggler unit (same as trader).

 

[Underdog Ally]

I have also modified the Heroic Epic and West Point to allow for the training of 1 Champion and 1 Special Forces, respectively. The champion is a 12 strength melee unit +25% against other melee units. The special forces is a 2 movement 28 strength gunpowder unit which can paradrop and use enemy roads. These units are more expensive than other units of the era and limited to 1.

 

[LPlate2]

@Spillsandstains, I've seen that labyrinth model. Its one of the ones I want to use. The main aspect I want for the various "defensive" wonders is that they are triggered when a unit attacks a city and not onUnitMove or when someone comes close to a city.
I implemented the first two in CvUnit::updateCombat(bool bQuick), having created the associated integers.

I'm going to use this approach in updateCombat for most of the defensive wonders I was thinking of, in order to call a python function. There are python for a lot of the responses I was planning just didn't have a trigger point here.

Spoiler :

// LPlate - Defensive Wonders - Mirror
   CvCity* pCity;
   if (pPlot ->isCity())
   {
       if (pCity->getDefenceMirror() > 0 && GC.getGameINLINE().getSorenRandNum(100, "Mirror Defender") < pCity->getDefenceMirror())
       {
           CyUnit* pyUnit = new CyUnit(this);
           CyPlot* pyPlot = new CyPlot(pPlot);
           CyArgsList argsList;
           argsList.add(gDLL->getPythonIFace()->makePythonObject(pyUnit));   // pass in unit class
           argsList.add(gDLL->getPythonIFace()->makePythonObject(pyPlot));   // pass in plot class
           gDLL->getPythonIFace()->callFunction(PYSpellModule, "doDefenceMirror", argsList.makeFunctionArgs()); //, &lResult
           delete pyUnit; // python fxn must not hold on to this pointer
           delete pyPlot;   // python fxn must not hold on to this pointer
       }
   }
// End LPlate - Defensive Wonders - Mirror

@Underdog Ally, those look like interesting uses of the functionality that's available.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I've always wanted a two edged sword like wonder. While listening to The Fall of Civilizations podcast 7 the Songhai Empire I thought of one.

Mansa Musa Pilgimage requires a state religion and three sources of gold. When built gives +10% foreign trade to all your cities (I implemented this as a free building called Pilgrimage Tradition but I think it can be done in the wonder buildings XML). However it causes 1 turn of economic collapse in all cities with that religion present that are not in your empire, i.e. not in your nation, vassals or colonies.

 

[keldath]

Hi,
Platyping created of dozens of python based buildings.
Wonder packs.
Im certain you can find most of the effecr you want.

 

[LPlate2]

Hi,
Platyping created of dozens of python based buildings.
Wonder packs.
Im certain you can find most of the effecr you want.

Wow. I need to download and check thru’ @Platyping’s work. There’s a phenomenal amount of ideas and graphics there.

 

[keldath]

Yup, like o said.

But you dont have to cherry pick much.
I think in his thread, he added entry for every componant with pictures.