Own1 My First Hosted SG!!
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Lullaby
peaceful builder
Need a skip until Monday, 4th of July due to excess flooding in the work pipeline.
madviking
north american scum
If you read the skiips thread, own and lull are skipped so its just you and me...
Own
Lullaby
MadV- playing (GOT IT)
markh- on deck
MadV- playing (GOT IT)
markh- on deck
Have fun with the French, but prepare for the Russians as they are next on the list. I would strengthen the Russian borders and maybe make peace with the Vikings soon. Fighting the Russians and the Vikings maybe difficult. The Vikings are quite weak and a very tempting target, but together with the Russians it may be too much. The Vikings will stay weak and are next after Russia. They can wait. Just my 0.02.
I am aware of this. That's why I suggest to strengthen our borders to Russia. France has only 2 or 3 cities left, haven't they ? There should be enough forces to kill them within the next few turns. The war with Russia is near and we should be prepared. The Vikings can wait a little, so maybe it is better to make peace with them soon and save these units for Russia.
madviking
north american scum
OK, play in an hour...
madviking
north american scum
0- yeah =>>> (please, Own, FINISH THE 10TH TURN!!!!)
1- Sal Kn -> kn, StR Kn -> kn, Capture Trondheim
IBT: Lizzy wants to be drunk, No, Rusks kill Joan
2- GR kn -> kn, capture Oslo
3- NF kn -> kn
4- Cat kn -> kn, Cent kn -> kn, Tyen market -> lib, destroy Karasjok
5- Sal kn -> kn, Mars pike -> market, Alle pike -> kn, Rusks make CO
6- StR kn -> kn
7- NF kn -> kn, GR kn -> kn, OS kn -> kn, MC kn -> kn, StR riots, Chon pike -> pike, capture Bergen, destroy Stravangar
8- meh
9- Sal kn -> kn
10- ??? Miscounted somewhere, should be 600AD
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Own1_600AD.SAV
1- Sal Kn -> kn, StR Kn -> kn, Capture Trondheim
IBT: Lizzy wants to be drunk, No, Rusks kill Joan
2- GR kn -> kn, capture Oslo
3- NF kn -> kn
4- Cat kn -> kn, Cent kn -> kn, Tyen market -> lib, destroy Karasjok
5- Sal kn -> kn, Mars pike -> market, Alle pike -> kn, Rusks make CO
6- StR kn -> kn
7- NF kn -> kn, GR kn -> kn, OS kn -> kn, MC kn -> kn, StR riots, Chon pike -> pike, capture Bergen, destroy Stravangar
8- meh
9- Sal kn -> kn
10- ??? Miscounted somewhere, should be 600AD
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads9/Own1_600AD.SAV
Had a look at the save and have to clarify before I begin. The Russians killed the French on the second IBT of madviking's turns, so according to the rules we would have had to declare war with Russia immediately as they are next after France on the list. We are not at war with Russia when I load the save and our borders to Russia are quite weak. According to my understanding of the rules we have to declare war to Russia immediately. Right ?
Lullaby
peaceful builder
That's the usual NOW rules.
We might consider to simply switch Russia and Vikings as we are already at war with Ragnar.
I can go with both.
We might consider to simply switch Russia and Vikings as we are already at war with Ragnar.
I can go with both.
I can go with both, too, but it changes the game significantly as almost all our forces are in the Viking territory. If I declare war on Russia now we do not have troops to hit her. It even could get very ugly as we have few troops to defend against Russia and they are quite strong now. It will be much easier to switch Vikings and Russia as the Vikings are already dying, but not accoridng to the rules. It would be more challenging to declare war on Russia now of course. Should we wait until own is back ?
Decided to play according to the list. If own wants to switch Vikings and Russia we can take madvking's save and play the other way.
End of madviking's turn : 600AD : chnaged some builds
Why are we researching with scientists ? The Great Library is obsolete. Turn research back on.
Declare war on Russia.
Sign peace with Ragnar for getting Stockholm, Alesund, Vadso and 3 gold
IBT : MW lost at Tours
MW lost at Tours
Lyons builds barracks -> spearman
Cattaraugus builds knight -> knight
Akwesasne builds barracks -> rush pikeman
Tonawanda builds knight -> knight
Centralia builds knight -> knight
St.Regis builds knight -> settler
Chondote builds pikeman -> pikeman
1) 610AD : MW kills ancient cavalry
MW lost to ancient cavalry
MW kills ancient cavalry
IBT: MW lost to longbow
Paris builds barracks -> spearman
Akwesasne builds pikeman -> pikeman
Tours builds pikeman -> spearman
2) 620AD : MW lost to longbow
knight kills longbow
knight kills longbow
MW kills knight
Abandon Grenoble
IBT : Niagara Falls builds knight -> knight
3) 630AD : knight kills musketman
knight lost to musketman
knight kills musketman -> promotes to elite
eknight kills longbow -> Chita is razed
knight kills ancient cavalry
Grand River builds knight -> settler
St. Regis builds settler -> knight
4) 640AD : MW kills pikeman
IBT : Salamanca builds knight -> knight
5) 650AD : Ganogeh founded -> barracks
knight lost against pikeman
knight kills longbow
knight kills pikeman
knight kills musketman
knight kills pikeman -> Krasnoyarsk is razed
eMW kills longbow
IBT : knight lost to longbow
Oka builds knight -> settler
6) 660AD : eMW kills longbow
knight kills musketman
IBT : Grand River builds settler -> knight
7) 670AD : knight lost to musketman
knight kills pikeman -> promotes to elite
knight kills musketman
eknight kills musketman
knight kills musketman
Alesund abandoned
IBT : 2 MWs lost at Avignon
Niagara Falls builds knight -> settler
Cattaraugus builds knight -> knight
Mauch Chunk builds knight -> knight
8) 680AD : knight kills musketman
knight kills musketman
eknight kills longbow -> Caughnawaga is ours again, incense hooked up again
Gayagaahe founded -> barracks
IBT : Avignon is lost
lost a pikeman at Caughnawaga
Allegheny builds knight -> knight
9) 690 AD : eknight builds knight
Next player has to consider that there is a stack of Russians is approaching SciCity.
End of madviking's turn : 600AD : chnaged some builds
Why are we researching with scientists ? The Great Library is obsolete. Turn research back on.
Declare war on Russia.
Sign peace with Ragnar for getting Stockholm, Alesund, Vadso and 3 gold
IBT : MW lost at Tours
MW lost at Tours
Lyons builds barracks -> spearman
Cattaraugus builds knight -> knight
Akwesasne builds barracks -> rush pikeman
Tonawanda builds knight -> knight
Centralia builds knight -> knight
St.Regis builds knight -> settler
Chondote builds pikeman -> pikeman
1) 610AD : MW kills ancient cavalry
MW lost to ancient cavalry
MW kills ancient cavalry
IBT: MW lost to longbow
Paris builds barracks -> spearman
Akwesasne builds pikeman -> pikeman
Tours builds pikeman -> spearman
2) 620AD : MW lost to longbow
knight kills longbow
knight kills longbow
MW kills knight
Abandon Grenoble
IBT : Niagara Falls builds knight -> knight
3) 630AD : knight kills musketman
knight lost to musketman
knight kills musketman -> promotes to elite
eknight kills longbow -> Chita is razed
knight kills ancient cavalry
Grand River builds knight -> settler
St. Regis builds settler -> knight
4) 640AD : MW kills pikeman
IBT : Salamanca builds knight -> knight
5) 650AD : Ganogeh founded -> barracks
knight lost against pikeman
knight kills longbow
knight kills pikeman
knight kills musketman
knight kills pikeman -> Krasnoyarsk is razed
eMW kills longbow
IBT : knight lost to longbow
Oka builds knight -> settler
6) 660AD : eMW kills longbow
knight kills musketman
IBT : Grand River builds settler -> knight
7) 670AD : knight lost to musketman
knight kills pikeman -> promotes to elite
knight kills musketman
eknight kills musketman
knight kills musketman
Alesund abandoned
IBT : 2 MWs lost at Avignon
Niagara Falls builds knight -> settler
Cattaraugus builds knight -> knight
Mauch Chunk builds knight -> knight
8) 680AD : knight kills musketman
knight kills musketman
eknight kills longbow -> Caughnawaga is ours again, incense hooked up again
Gayagaahe founded -> barracks
IBT : Avignon is lost
lost a pikeman at Caughnawaga
Allegheny builds knight -> knight
9) 690 AD : eknight builds knight
Next player has to consider that there is a stack of Russians is approaching SciCity.
Ah, forgot something. Keep an eye on former Paris. Do not let the Russians take that city as it has the Great Wall. Abandon it if it is obvious that we cannot hold it. Russia with the Great Wall wouldn't be good. For the time being they ignored that city and they are sending troops heading to our main land.
Starve down our incense city caughnawaga until there are only our people left and prepare to attack Smolensk to take away the cultural pressure from Caughnawaga.
Starve down our incense city caughnawaga until there are only our people left and prepare to attack Smolensk to take away the cultural pressure from Caughnawaga.
madviking
north american scum
Lull can take it 
Lullaby
peaceful builder
Got it.
Lullaby
peaceful builder
Turn 0, 690 AD:
Switch Lyons to Harbor and rush it. We need resouces there to upgrade our MW.
Abandon SciTown.
Upgrade some MW.
IBT:
Lost Marseilles to Russia
Caughnawaga flips to Russia
Turn 1, 700 AD:
Take back Caughnawaga
Turn 2, 710 AD:
Take Archangelsk
Found Gewauga
Turn 3, 720 AD:
No breakthroughs possible. With all those AC and Crusaders Russia simply has too many troops. I switch several cities from knights to trebs.
Turn 4, 730 AD:
Get a leader. Rush the Forbidden Palace in Mauch Chunk for faster research and unit production. This will help much more in the long run than an army. And this one will last long.
Turn 5, 740 AD:
Only defensive fighting
Turn 6, 750 AD:
dito
IBT:
Lose Lyons
Turn 7, 760 AD:
Large amounts of russian foot soldiers on their way south
Turn 8, 770 AD:
Still on defense and leader fishing without luck
Turn 9, 780 AD:
Found Goigouen
Turn 10, 790 AD:
Still no luck on leader fishing
Serious SNAFU all around. The only chance to win this is a slow advance with much artillery and armies. Russia is much to strong to simply run through the front door.
THE SAVE
Switch Lyons to Harbor and rush it. We need resouces there to upgrade our MW.
Abandon SciTown.
Upgrade some MW.
IBT:
Lost Marseilles to Russia
Caughnawaga flips to Russia
Turn 1, 700 AD:
Take back Caughnawaga
Turn 2, 710 AD:
Take Archangelsk
Found Gewauga
Turn 3, 720 AD:
No breakthroughs possible. With all those AC and Crusaders Russia simply has too many troops. I switch several cities from knights to trebs.
Turn 4, 730 AD:
Get a leader. Rush the Forbidden Palace in Mauch Chunk for faster research and unit production. This will help much more in the long run than an army. And this one will last long.
Turn 5, 740 AD:
Only defensive fighting
Turn 6, 750 AD:
dito
IBT:
Lose Lyons
Turn 7, 760 AD:
Large amounts of russian foot soldiers on their way south
Turn 8, 770 AD:
Still on defense and leader fishing without luck
Turn 9, 780 AD:
Found Goigouen
Turn 10, 790 AD:
Still no luck on leader fishing
Serious SNAFU all around. The only chance to win this is a slow advance with much artillery and armies. Russia is much to strong to simply run through the front door.
THE SAVE
