Own8 AWM on Cotm 15 Map

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Woops, not me up, Smart hasn't played yet.

 

[Smart]

I will swap, Beorn, because I have played few turns yet (thought that you will play this turnset )

 

[nerovats]

Who is gona play, Smart or Beorn?

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Sorry for that, Smart, I posted hastily without fully reading and didn't see it was your turn. You have my blessing, I couldn't take it right now anyways, I'll be pretty busy up to friday.

 

[Smart]

OK, then lets swap.
New roster:
Own
nerovats - UP
Smart - on deck
Beorn - unavailable untlil friday
Leha

 

[nerovats]

Ok, play either tonight or tomorrow night.

 

[nerovats]

Pre-turn
MM to get 2 units turn faster
up science 1 notch to get lit in 3
IBT
Arabian warrior loses 1-0
950BC
Found Karachi->worker
kill JT 2-0
925BC
Lit->poly
MM to get walls in Die Hard next turn
IBT
GS kill spear 2-1
spear kill JT 3-1 becomes elite
900BC
warrior kills JT 4-1 becomes vet
IBT
kill archer 5-1
GS kills sword 5-2
sword kills archer 6-2
archer kills GS 7-2
875BC
archer kills warrior 8-2
change all outer cities to walls as we're losing units on defence
IBT
Celts are sending in loads of units
850BC
kill spear 9-2
IBT
get unlucky lose Madras to couple off GS 9-4
loses sword 9-5
825BC
Because of losing Madras, Bombay riots and doesn;t finish sword this turn
IBT
lose Lahore 9-6
Lose bombay to a reg archer, this is not my day 9-7
800BC
nothing
IBT
loses warrior to GS 9-7
775BC
Delhi has now just 1 warrior in it and Die Hard is approached by lot of GS
IBT
spear defeats GS becomes elite 10-7
same spear dies because of GS, so does DieHard 10-8
750BC
We probably lost.
On my turn again, sorry, was doing ok until all the GS, great UU that is.



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[Smart]

lose Madras; Lose bombay; so does DieHard
Delhi has now just 1 warrior in it

OMG
This AWM SG is much harder then DG one
You had to rush walls in all border cities first

 

[Smart]

I've downloaded save... Looks badly

Pre-turn
Pop-rush walls in Delhi for 2 citizens.
Move catapult S from Bangalore.
IT
Swordsman wins vs celtic archer. Then GS kills it.
Warrior loose vs mayan JT.
Dehli captured...

Our "army":

We are losing this in SG... I can play remaining turns, but I dont thing that anything will change

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I don't think frowning smileys are in order, Smart. That one was a killer, and we got shot. Can't always win when you're against all odds ... that's what the ods tell isn't it?

GG everyone

 

[Smart]

Nice game anyway
My first lose on Monarch

I have an idea about peacefull SG - cultural 20k victory, player can caprute, get via peace treaty or culture flip only one city per turnset. If somebody takes an interest in my suggestion, i can start it tomorrow

 

[Own]

A late loss with the 360 degree front wouldn't be a surpirse, but I was surprised by the early loss. Good effort everyone. I would try it again, except that'd be silly on the same map. Perhaps another AW? Peaceful games are good, but AW is fun too. Maybe AW+20k? Or some AW variant (XCC, despot, no armies eek, or something). Or AWD tiny continents, or even small continents?

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'd like a XCC AWDG+ 'pelago as the Vikings. I've just longed building tons of zerkers for a short while and I ended up winning too fast for zerks when I tried it on EMP.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Hey, since we're on a brainstorm: I've just started an AWM huge pangea, full opponents, on SP. T70 and everything is sweet. Perhaps we could give that a shot.

 

[Own]

That sounds ok, I also tried that myself AWE and I lost early after trying an archer rush, which was stupid because of the huge map. Also I faced greece, and many a tile were pillaged.

 

[Smart]

If we are going for AW, then lets try AWD or mb AWS small pang/continents.

Ideas for peacefull SG's:

• Builder's variant - huge continents, DG, space victory.
• Cultural variant - standart continents, DG or Emp, cultural 20k victory, 5CC or (5+1)-CC
• Diplomatic vatiant - standart or small continents, Emp, diplo victory, OCC. It will be fast, because of OCC.

Also we can create two SG's - AW, and peacefull

 

[Own]

Maybe AWS tiny continents, it's the only non island AWS done yet. It's actually doable, jsut hard.

 

[zerksees]

New lurker comments:
1) Surely this game was winnable at 4000 BC. Besides the walls, what else could have been done?

2) Would you be interested to hear the results if I played the next 10 or 20 turns from here to see what happens?

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

One thing that struck me as plausible was to found Delhi 2NE, Bombay and Madras on iron hills, Bangalore on Gold. Those would make pretty powerful cities. Of course, it is post-game spoiled info, but it would help a bunch.

We also could have used catapults early on. Walls would help, but javs are 30 shields, so we should have been able to keep up. I'll certainly replay this map sometime.

 

[nerovats]

City placement left room for improvement. Problem with this game is 360 front as Own said, and close AI with powerfull and early UU. JT are just 20 shields as far as I know. Combined with not being very fortunate in times. Could play this one again though.