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[tR1cKy]

In my opinion you are over-reacting. Mine was just a critic and nothing more. You have done nothing to piss me off and have nothing to apologise for.

But if you honestly think that my comments were confrontational rather than constructive criticism, would you please show me where i have been so pissing? In my posts i don't see anything that could have you angered.

 

[Afterburner]

In my opinion you are over-reacting.

This, too, is also possible.

Mine was just a critic and nothing more. You have done nothing to piss me off and have nothing to apologise for.

Groovy.

But if you honestly think that my comments were confrontational rather than constructive criticism, would you please show me where i have been so pissing? In my posts i don't see anything that could have you angered.

Just an overall "tone" thing. But, again, shortcomings of the medium. Lack of non-verbal cues, and all that. If you say it's my imagination, I'm cool with that.

 

[Afterburner]

In the spirit of me trying to improve my game, here is my latest savegame file:

http://www.erols.com/aburner/game1-1.zip

I am currently sucking the hind teat in terms of productivity, money, research, and territory. I have discovered China and Babylon, and judging from a message I got a few turns back, they've been at war with each other in the past. (The message was them declaring peace.) One of the rival cities (forget which) also JUST built the Great Library...with only 6 turns to go until completion in one of my own cities.

If anyone wants to take a look and tell me how I can un**** myself, particularly with respect to catching up to the other civs in terms of tech (they're in Medieval Era already, I'm still in the Stone Age), and/or suggest things I could have done differently to not wind up in my situation in the first place, I'd appreciate it.

 

[tR1cKy]

Ok.
But remember that foreigners cannot always choose the best words or the best tone available to say something. I often find myself thinking in italian and then trying to translate my thought in english as best as i can. Probably someone born in an english speaking country would have said the same things in a way less prone to misinterpretations.

EDIT: crosspost
RE-EDIT: can you post a screenshot?

 

[Afterburner]

But remember that foreigners cannot always choose the best words or the best tone available to say something. I often find myself thinking in italian and then trying to translate my thought in english as best as i can. Probably someone born in an english speaking country would have said the same things in a way less prone to misinterpretations.

...

You're not a native English speaker?

Wouldn't have guessed.

I often regret the fact that America is not a more polyglot nation. I speak English and...that's it. All the Italian I know comes from working in Italian restaurants when I was younger.

Buon Giorno!
Buon Fortuna!
Tutti Pazzi! (This was the name of a restaurant I worked in.)

RE-EDIT: can you post a screenshot?

Sure! Of anything in particular?

 

[tR1cKy]

Hehe - glad you worked in an italian restaurant. You had some nice italian meals, i guess, and some good wine too
My preferred dish is "Penne all'arrabbiata" - you know it?

The shot: anything useful for comments - a shot of your core territory, or the enemy lands.

To catch up in research, i suggest to pick a weak enemy, grab a few cities, then offer peace. With peace negotiations you can extort a few techs. If you look at my gamelog (link in the signature) you see that almost all my tech were extorted during peace negotiations.

 

[Afterburner]

Hehe - glad you worked in an italian restaurant. You had some nice italian meals, i guess, and some good wine too
My preferred dish is "Penne all'arrabbiata" - you know it?

I'm definitely familiar with penne pasta. Arrabbiata is basically a spicy tomato sauce, right? Kinda like fra diavolo?

The shot: anything useful for comments - a shot of your core territory, or the enemy lands.

Okay, a few screenshots follow.

Notes: I am currently in a Republic. Researching mathematics. Tax rate is set at 8.2.0. The city you see in the first screenshot that's building the Great Library? Gonna hafta switch to something else before this turn ends.

The two cities pictured in Game1-2.jpg were both spawned by goody huts.

 

[tR1cKy]

Yeah! Be sure to have some good peperoncino (chili pepper?). And a good red wine to enjoy them better. And a gorgeus lady for the after dinner

The game: the risk in building wonders is that. Some AS ends first and you're screwed. If you have (or can buy) monarchy you can switch to the Hanging Gardens (1 extra happiness) - i cannot imagine nothing better, i'm not expert of the conquest wonders.

It seems you have still room to expand. Better build settlers and some escort to grab the rest of the 2nd island. Probably you need to be peaceful for now, and benefit of Republic. More cities -> more gold and you can buy techs from the other AS. Then, once the empire is built, i would go to full scale war

 

[Rohili]

But...nrg. I am irrationally (and quite intensely) annoyed by overlapping city radii. I have a very anal-retentive city placement strategy, which I have been using since roughly my 5th game of Civ1, that maximizes the number of cities one can place in a given area while eliminating overlapping radii. This is one of the "bad" habits mentioned above, and the one that will almost certainly be the most difficult to break.

You're not alone. I can't say for everyone, but I do believe most people, when starting out, played the game building all available city improvements, almost all available wonders and placed their cities in the best position possible maximising the land coverage. I know I did. But of course, once you get onto hgiher difficulty levels you'll have to wean yourself off those habits and get out of the comfort zone.

 

[gmaharriet]

I often find myself thinking in italian and then trying to translate my thought in english as best as i can.

You write very well in English. I'd wondered if you were British or American and had moved to Italy.

 

[Zorn]

Well, I have the habit to stick to ocp, too. And to make matters worse, I strictly refuse to mine grassland just because - it looks so ugly.
The only good thing is that I allways play with 15 enemies. So every game goes for a long time, no matter how many civs I rush in ancient or medieveal times. And that means that my bad habits will eventually give me very powerful core.
However, gl with your game.

 

[rysingsun]

My precious, precious pop 33 and higher cities...gone?

wow! a size 33 city! i dont think ive ever even conquered one that big.

which brings me to the one strategy suggestion i will offer. if you ever have a city rocketing up to a size bigger than the amount of tiles workable use the opportunity to convert as much irrigated land as necessary or possible to mines. you will marvel at what it does quite rapidly to that city's production rate. and when you see all those shields you will forget your sorrows over the lost population opportunity

 

[tR1cKy]

You write very well in English. I'd wondered if you were British or American and had moved to Italy.

Thanks!
But i must confess that when i write in this forum i always have the dictionary.com homepage opened in another tab

 

[Daghdha]

Here's another learner of the game ! Been struggeling with the OCP thing to and my breif experience with overlapping tells me that it has several benefits.
Faster expansion since you get a highly productive core early on
Better possibilities to micromanage by alternating tiles between cities
As previously said, early in the game you won't fill up those 21 tiles anyway and you can always abandon later
More cities means more "free" units when they start to cost a lot

Bamspeedys piece on the deity babylons (in war academy) helped me with the "move worker first"-thing so I alway do that now. It's a free peek of the sorrundings. Try to read the terrain and move where there's likely to be bonuses and such.
Breaking habits is a hard thing but essential if they're bad . What is bad is the tricky part to find out. Me I have a tendency to build too much infrastructure in no good cities because I want them to be good and grow....pleeeease , but they don't so I usually have them to build a worker every 10 turn instead. You can't get too many workers methinks.

Good Luck with the game!

 

[Whomp]

Ah Brunello....

I digress....Afterburner I think it always helps when starting a game to focus on your inherent traits. Being agri was a big advantage in the expansion phase for the extra food. The expansionist trait also was an advantage in the AA for hut popping and contacts. Not so great on archs.
On city placement...it may be ugly but maybe try it once and I'll bet you increase you level immediately. As someone put it to me...at least place cities where a swordsman's can run and cover another city in one turn.