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On the Paradox forums. PI will be making a couple of big announcements at gamescom, Vicky 2 has ot be a possibility
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On the Paradox forums. PI will be making a couple of big announcements at gamescom, Vicky 2 has ot be a possibility
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
I would love a Vicky 2, but HOI3 is relaly my big priority! I'm very close to giving up on the diea of gettign a 'oyscial' copy and just downloading tommorow, I have 2 whole days next with nothing to do but play games.....just begging me to get HOI3....Yeah, Johan has said the release patch will optimise performance a lot. I will get the game eventually, but I might hold off until the first few patches. the demo keeps crashing on my PC.
I'll keep an eye out for you there
Frankly, I'm more excited about the speculation of a possible Vicky 2
ComradeDavo
Formerly God
Ahhhh I gave in! Alarm not set so i can start downloading them game at 8am tommorow morning! GHot work at 2 though...if it's not done by then my brother has to sort it for me!
I'm downloading HOI3 right now. East India company looks goods and I can't wait when it goes down in price.. Yes I'm cheap/poor. Anyboy got EIC yet? It looks vaguely like Empire: total war.
A sequel to Vicky would be great..especially if they add a tutorial
A sequel to Vicky would be great..especially if they add a tutorial
steviejay
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I'm waiting the 6 odd hours till I can download it. In Paradox's infinite wisdom they decided to release the game in Europe later than claimed (although you have to feel for the Aussies) so I'm just downloading it so I can play it before I go back to work on Monday.
Kan' Sharuminar
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It was something to do with the production run that caused the delay, rather than releasing it late for the hell of it: Paradox Thread.
It's not too much of a bother for me, since I was always going to be downloading it. Even if I had the physical copy right now I wouldn't be able to play it - I don't have a day free until Wednesday
Which isn't to say I'm not going to be up well past any respectable bed-time these next few nights trying the game out...
It's not too much of a bother for me, since I was always going to be downloading it. Even if I had the physical copy right now I wouldn't be able to play it - I don't have a day free until Wednesday
Which isn't to say I'm not going to be up well past any respectable bed-time these next few nights trying the game out...
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
The only reason I'm annoyed is the fact I need to wait till 7pm for a game that's out today.
I was planning on downloading it as well, but when I saw I had to wait till tonight to do so, I just thought I'd go buy it in a shop. Then I found out from yourself that it's delayed. All in all it's a nuisance. They think too little of geeks, 'yeah lets release it on Friday night, they won't be doing anything'.
I know this question is asked more than most on this forum but, is EU3 worth getting?
I was planning on downloading it as well, but when I saw I had to wait till tonight to do so, I just thought I'd go buy it in a shop. Then I found out from yourself that it's delayed. All in all it's a nuisance. They think too little of geeks, 'yeah lets release it on Friday night, they won't be doing anything'.
I know this question is asked more than most on this forum but, is EU3 worth getting?
Kan' Sharuminar
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Yeah, me too - would be nice to download while I'm at work. I think this is a Steam issue though, rather than Paradox.
Yup, especially now it's expansioned/patched up! The sheer timescale and depth allows for more varied games than HoI can.
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Soooooo HoI3...
Might I suggest waiting a little bit?
It clearly has massive potential, and will eventually be an amazing game. The command structure thing is amazing, the depth is incredible, and the game's machanics in all the areas are very nicely designed.
But right now it's some seriously sloppy stuff, in desperate need of some heavy-duty polish.
It's riddled with bugs, even with the patch (one of which is pretty much completely show-stopping); it's slow as molasses, even on fast computers; the map is utterly terrible, being both ugly and completely uninformative; geographical accuracy is sorely lacking (Stalingrad is miles from its actual location, Gibraltar is urban while Tokyo is not, etc etc); the weather system is completely broken, regularly giving things like snowfall in the Australian midsummer; the auto-sliders are gone, meaning manually tweaking production sliders every fricking day; there's no way of figuring out local time in a given province; etc etc
I mean I know you have to expect a painful birth with Paradox stuff, but that doesn't mean it's not damn disappointing. Give it a couple of months and I'm sure it will be great, but I'm going back to HoI2 and EU3 for now, at least until the consumer goods bug is fixed (and I've only had the bloody thing for a couple of hours )
Sure is! Not as in-depth as the HoI games, but a lot of fun. You really want the expansions though, to really see it shiny and polished. And check out the Magna Mundi mod - pretty much the best gameplay-enhancing mod I've seen for any game, with a jaw-droppingly gorgeous map mod to boot (though it's bloody hard).
Might I suggest waiting a little bit?
It clearly has massive potential, and will eventually be an amazing game. The command structure thing is amazing, the depth is incredible, and the game's machanics in all the areas are very nicely designed.
But right now it's some seriously sloppy stuff, in desperate need of some heavy-duty polish.
It's riddled with bugs, even with the patch (one of which is pretty much completely show-stopping); it's slow as molasses, even on fast computers; the map is utterly terrible, being both ugly and completely uninformative; geographical accuracy is sorely lacking (Stalingrad is miles from its actual location, Gibraltar is urban while Tokyo is not, etc etc); the weather system is completely broken, regularly giving things like snowfall in the Australian midsummer; the auto-sliders are gone, meaning manually tweaking production sliders every fricking day; there's no way of figuring out local time in a given province; etc etc
I mean I know you have to expect a painful birth with Paradox stuff, but that doesn't mean it's not damn disappointing. Give it a couple of months and I'm sure it will be great, but I'm going back to HoI2 and EU3 for now, at least until the consumer goods bug is fixed (and I've only had the bloody thing for a couple of hours
)Sure is! Not as in-depth as the HoI games, but a lot of fun. You really want the expansions though, to really see it shiny and polished. And check out the Magna Mundi mod - pretty much the best gameplay-enhancing mod I've seen for any game, with a jaw-droppingly gorgeous map mod to boot (though it's bloody hard).
Shylock
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There is an AI control option for pretty much every screen.
PhroX
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Yeah, but you can't automate just the sliders, only the whole production screen. I don't want the AI to decide what I'm building, just how my IC is distributed. Same with trading, I want to leave trades up to the AI, but do the rest of diplomacy myself. Seems stupid the not have these, given that HoI2 had them....
Polycrates
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Yeah but the last thing I want is the AI completely controlling my production and deciding what I build and all that. I just want it to auto-adjust my sliders as my needs for supplies, upgrades and reinforcements fluctuate from day to day, so I'm not wasting countless IC overallocated to reinforcement which my dissent goes up from a lack of consumer goods etc - pretty much exactly like it was done in HoI2. It doesn't help that the sliders are buggy as hell at the moment, either.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I'm with PhroX on that, I HATE managing sliders, but I am certainly NOT going to let the AI manage production!
Genocidicbunny
Bug squasher
Yep, back to HoI2 for me as well. HoI3 looks nice, but the thing that bugs me the most ( two things actually ) has to be the sliders and the fact that the province names take forever to show up. At first I thought the game was just taking a while to load them, but noo...they have to take 20 seconds to show up, by which time ive scrolled away.
On the other hand, there are some really nice and cool things: You can change the resolution, more provinces, tech research is redone ( in a way I sorta approve, I liked my tech teams too, but the way its done right now shows promise too.)
The division designer has great potential, but it may also overcomplicate things. Its hard enough to keep track of info on the map as is, with so many similar-looking divisions that have different roles now its going to be damned close to impossible. Has anyone also noticed that you need a tech to build IC? A stupid idea imho as it effectively cuts off a 3rd of a year in which you can be building up IC.
Trade also seems to be buggy right now. Im getting plenty of trade offers, but any trade I try to make comes up as impossible, even ones that are the same exact thing as the ones the country just tried to make. The fact that you cant give away resources ( I didnt find a way at least) also kinda sucks, that was a nice relation boost in HoI2.
Overall though, these arent birthing pains, its a premature birth in general. Paradox really needs to get a more serious beta program. Like, and actual beta program, not the one we're currently being subject to.
On the other hand, there are some really nice and cool things: You can change the resolution, more provinces, tech research is redone ( in a way I sorta approve, I liked my tech teams too, but the way its done right now shows promise too.)
The division designer has great potential, but it may also overcomplicate things. Its hard enough to keep track of info on the map as is, with so many similar-looking divisions that have different roles now its going to be damned close to impossible. Has anyone also noticed that you need a tech to build IC? A stupid idea imho as it effectively cuts off a 3rd of a year in which you can be building up IC.
Trade also seems to be buggy right now. Im getting plenty of trade offers, but any trade I try to make comes up as impossible, even ones that are the same exact thing as the ones the country just tried to make. The fact that you cant give away resources ( I didnt find a way at least) also kinda sucks, that was a nice relation boost in HoI2.
Overall though, these arent birthing pains, its a premature birth in general. Paradox really needs to get a more serious beta program. Like, and actual beta program, not the one we're currently being subject to.
steviejay
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I played it for a few months and am glad to see the issues I had seem to be shared. The loading times are odd. For my comp they just shouldn't be that severe. The managing sliders gets old but I suppose I'll get used to it. I tend to have the AI handle intelligence, Diplomacy and I deal with the rest.
Has anyone been able to activate the Anschluss yet? It says I need to get some value down to an acceptable level but I'm not sure how to do that.
Also, am I still in the HoI2 mindset where I'm trying to group units into bands of 3. Can that still be done?
Has anyone been able to activate the Anschluss yet? It says I need to get some value down to an acceptable level but I'm not sure how to do that.
Also, am I still in the HoI2 mindset where I'm trying to group units into bands of 3. Can that still be done?
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
The map could do with some tweaking as well.
I do like it (to a degree) where you can see trees and cities and whatnot but it just doesn't look right. It feels like they've tried to make it gritty even though in my opinion the map in HoI2 was pretty good.
I do like it (to a degree) where you can see trees and cities and whatnot but it just doesn't look right. It feels like they've tried to make it gritty even though in my opinion the map in HoI2 was pretty good.
LightSpectra
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Is it me, or is Stalingrad not where it's supposed to be on the HoI3 map?
Polycrates
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The problem is that there's a bug where the consumer goods requirements of divisions is the exponent of the number of brigades, not the multiple. So on average, requirements for consumer goods are about 3-4 times what they should be, which means that most countries are spending the vast majority of their IC (I'm talking 80%+) just on producing consumer goods. There's also a bug where reserve divisions cost as much supplies as active ones. So a lot of countries don't have enough IC even to cover their supply needs, let alone build anything. Hence massive trade strangeness (which is only the least of it, the IC problem really makes the 1936 scenario pretty much unplayable).
I gather only Comintern nations are supposed to be able to give away resources. Not entirely sure of the rationale.
Haven't played Germany, but I think it's probably your neutrality? There's a mission for your local espionage agents to "lower neutrality" - not sure if there are other means as well.
You can group them into bands of three under a corps-level HQ if you want - don't yet know if that's at all optimal, though.
Yeah I agree - it can be kinda pretty at the closest zoom levels, but it's so drab and more importantly, totally uninformative. People have already made map mods though
Yeah it's about 10 provinces away from its actual spot on the Volga bend, near the Don. There's heaps of map errors like that (which is really not something I'd expect from Paradox), it's just that Stalingrad is the most obvious. Check out the new capital of Argentina as well
Maniacal
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HOW do they get Stalingrad wrong?
And I am very disapointed abotu the region shapes in Canada, they do not even come close to most of the provinces, the Queen Charlette Islands are still missing, and there are some odd naming choices, a chunk of mainland in BC is named Campbell Island! Cape Breton is named something else, and how do you get the Capital of Argentina wrong?
And I am very disapointed abotu the region shapes in Canada, they do not even come close to most of the provinces, the Queen Charlette Islands are still missing, and there are some odd naming choices, a chunk of mainland in BC is named Campbell Island! Cape Breton is named something else, and how do you get the Capital of Argentina wrong?
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