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Patch 1.09 released!

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Borgholio, Nov 23, 2005.

  1. Psyringe

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    The game runs more stable and smoother for some people which had problems before. The endgame takes a *little* longer. Ironworks works now. The other fixes and changes are really minor imho, unless you're playing multiplayer, in that case you'll appreciate that an AI diplomacy exploit has been fixed, and that the list of open games in the gamespy lounge doesn't reset every second now.
     
  2. fung3

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    Need help.

    I do not have internet at home so I have downloaded patch v1.09 onto a DVD at work. I now need to install the patch onto my PC at home.

    Q. How do I install the patch?

    Any help gratefully appreciated.
     
  3. Dark Helmet

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    fung3: The patch should be a self-executable, so you can just double-click on it, and the patch *should run*.
     
  4. blue3c

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    So has the rumor mill updated the any info on the patch of the patch?
     
  5. Efexeye

    Efexeye Silly Donkey

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    Give 'em a break, man. They put the first patch out QUICK.

    It's the holidays, ya know? Let them catch their breath!
     
  6. blue3c

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    Are you kidding me. Really. I could care less if it is the holidays. The facts are that they have not patched the game to a working state for all who PAID good hard earned money for this. They RUSHED the game to production so they could sell more. Knowing the product was not fully tested. THEY DID NOT put out the first patch QUICK.
    A person in these forums has identified and fixed more then they have. He is one person. They are a team and have taken money for this game. He paid money to have to work on a game. HMMMMMM.
    Give who a break. What was that again.
    You are mighty quick to defend them. Do you work for them. Own stock. What.
    I asked a simple question.
    you replied as if you have something to hide. Like maybe you work for them and feel guilty you put out such a terrible product. Like maybe just maybe you know the game should not have been released when it was. But you wanted to beat aoeIII out to the stores. Figuring you could just patch it later. Cause hey we are just gamers, what the hell. Its not like we work for our money right. What the hell, gamers always pay for unfinished crap. Then they do your work for you and patch, mod and basically finish the game. So it is 1000 times better then the crap you put out. And the best part is you can keep your name on it. Incorporating all the hard work by the gaming community to fix your crap into an official patch. That way you can say you did the work. But hey what the hell its your business model so why not stick with it.
    You also know that you will have mindless drones following you. Supporting everything you do. The few that do complain, will be drowned out by the hundreds of thousands of drones you have created.
    But hey your not really stealing the money, right. Its not stealing if you sell them unfinished untested crap. I mean they are the ones that are stupid enough to do all your work for you and pay you for that, right.
    So we shouldn't be blaming firaxis for putting out a crap game, we should blame our selves for continuing to let them put this crap out. By buying unfinished products. By letting these so called game reviewers write glowing reviews on crap games. By watching the gaming industry pat it slef on the back with awards they awarded themselves.
    Yah thats it, Cause what the hell, its our business model. Besides gamers are just to stupid to do anything about it. Right?????
     
  7. Efexeye

    Efexeye Silly Donkey

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    Well, I , for one, noticed that the gripe threads really dropped in number after the patch came out. Is the game still not working for you? If so, I'm sorry. There are a lot of fixes out there for people's numerous issues, which seem to have dwindled to "the game runs slow in the late game on big maps". And, for the record, the first patch was out in what, about 6 weeks? I'd call that quick.

    I appreciate what Harkkonen did, however, I'm not about to download an unofficial patch. It's great that a lot of people are getting utility out of his patch, however, it seemed to me (from reading the related threads) that the patch is something he wanted to do. I'm glad he cared about the game enough to try to fix it- it's so much easier to sit back and rant or take cheap shots *ahem*.

    No, I don't work for them, but I have to say that I have yet to read a post of yours on these forums that wasn't horribly negative, I'm just trying to understand, do you WANT this game to suck?

    Do you have a job? Would you like receiving constant feedback that you're a hack, or a corporate cheat, or a thief, if something you did wasn't 100% perfect, the first time, every time?


    The question you asked was in the spirit of criticism, not in the spirit of genuinely hoping that there is another patch coming out. How do I know this? I inferred it from your other numerous, game-ripping posts.

    Well, you couldn't be more wrong on that, frankly. I don't work for Firaxis, Take2, or anyone associated with this game. I just don't like it that people come here and post uncaringly and with impunity about how bad the game sucks. And, for the record, AoE III came out in stores BEFORE cIV, so that part of your argument makes zero sense.

    Dude, take the tinfoil hat off and relax for a second. I've never understood the logic behind "we'll just put out a crap game, screw the consumer". It simply doesn't happen- that is a HORRIBLE business attitude, and one that conspiracy theorists seem to be all too willing to accept as plausible.
     
  8. blue3c

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    No tinfoil. Just countless games that need countless patchs. Watching games come out that gamers fix not the companies. As a regular business model, yes it sucks. But in the gaming industry they can and have gotten away with it. Why because it has become the standard. Something to expect. The gaming standard seems to be going to the do not buy before the third patch.

    Yes you are right I am totally negitive when it comes to this game and this company. I expected more. I expected a game with sids name on it to work. A game with the civ title to just be mind numbing fun. I expected to take that first weekend off and just game all weekend on a hard awesome game of civ.
    I did not expect to be watching my game slow to a crawl and lock my system, ctd, kill a hard drive etc etc etc.
    So yes I am pissed. Yes I am sick of early releases. Yes I am saying something anytime I feel ripped off. Yes I will speak up until this problem is solved. Yes I have contacted them. And yes they have only returned one email and it was a form letter suggesting I run scandisk on a xp computer. Considering scandisk does not exist in XP. Thats a good trick. Scandisk was last around in 98se. I understood they meant to say checkdisk. And if that was the only mistake there, I would just say common mistake. But do not tell me to go to start programs accesories and run scandisk. Like you copied it out of a 98se how to page, when even checkdisk is not there. Eye Dee Ten Tee award goes to...... Firaxis.
    So after all this I would say you meant to say there is no work on a upcoming patch. Is that correct mr firaxis man. I mean it is the holidays. Who cares if the product they sold does not work for all who bought it. The have the money and derserve some time off right. Like with sid and soren doing the little tour instead of fixing the game. Hell they have our money, what should we really expect form them. A working game. That would be asking to much. I mean considering we paid for one and all. But hey its the holidays.
    Straw that broke the camels back. Firaxis is.
     
  9. Efexeye

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    Well, in the interest of not getting into a flame war, I'm not going to respond to your individiual points, but I would like to say, if the game doesn't work for you, you're pissed at Sid and Soren, and you don't plan to play it, WHY ARE YOU STILL COMING TO THIS FORUM? Just to complain?

    Seems to me like there are much better ways to use one's time...you're just a hater, apparently. It isn't constructive, it's just vitriol, the way you cut on Firaxis and their staff.
     
  10. blue3c

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    I would like to be able to play the game with an offical patch. I would like to be able to say that sid soren and the boys have put half the time Hark has put into figuring out this game. But I will say from current work they have not.
    If a hater is someone that is pissed off because they spent money for something and got nothing but headaches in return. yes I am a hater.
     
  11. SenhorDaGuerra

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    i have to say, i agree with blue3c. if u buy something, you expect it to work. FULL STOP. not, it will work when we get the 4th patch out in a years time. work the first time round, then you would not have arguments like these. its the same with all things in life. If you bought a car and the brakes didnt work, would you still think, "hey man, dont worry, its the holidays, the rest of the car is fine". Or if you bought a pair of scissors that didnt cut anything, you wouldnt say "its ok, its the holidays" no if something doesnt work, its up to the manufacturer to fix it.

    personally dude, i think if ur that upset with the game, just return it, and buy AOEIII or something.
     
  12. Harkonnen

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    I actually agree with blue3c too, but I'm the screamer at the other forums... (not about civ4, it's the tendency as blue3c has spotted).

    Yes, I wanted to make this patch. For glory, for recognition - well yes. For possible bonus from Firaxis - yes... but all of that wasn't primary. The primary goal was to show what game industry is... If a coder (no matter skilled or not) can make it so better without any source code, then where are we heading??? Game industry seems to me like a car rocking on a usual russian road under 200mph. Yes, it covers a huge distance per second, but sooner or later it's gonna catch its pillar...

    I don't think that people will refuse buying games, that's kind of food for them (for me at least), but I am damn surprised how online reviewers live... I mean they have a lot of paid advertising in them, but that implies that they are being read. So why are they being read with so much lie behind the lines? As long as I've got busted with civ4, I personally won't visit, nor I will recommend anyone to use all those reviewers who gave civ4 unacceptably high score and haven't posted any bugs it had.

    Avoiding buying games isn't possible thing to follow, but avoiding public reviews (at least from top 10 reviewers) is a possible things. If many will follow, game developers will be more quality-driven like they did in year 1993.

    I can get put more phylosophy in this. Today's way of business is good and robust in everything except allowance of unlimited advertising. It supersedes product quality, and the shorter the world seems for us (flight, internet), the worse effects it has... People are evading racism, terrorism, whatever-else-ism from being spreading. Even simply talking positively about that is illegal. People also understood that monopolies are bad, and there are treatments to such situations in developed countries. But that hasn't yet happened to advertising, and I am not sure it's ever going to happen since it is considered as a foundation for sales nowadays...
     
  13. Carewolf

    Carewolf Gammelt røvhul

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    Odd. Most other companies have any critical patches for the release out before the first week, and fixes any remaining bugs with series of patches every few weeks.

    The first patch came out VERY SLOW, and the second one is repeating the VERY SLOW timing.
     
  14. anomalek

    anomalek Chieftain

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    I agree 100% with blue3c. I am furious about this. The number of gripes have dropped because people can only spend so many weeks trying to figure out how to fix this unplayable piece of crap. This is one of the most deservedly successful video game franchises of its kind. They are obviously not strapped for cash. And yet they tossed this sub-beta garbage onto the market with complete disregard for all the havoc it would cause because they are money-grubbing scumbags. Period. Money-grubbing scumbags. Because I foolishly assumed they were legitimate businesspeople interested in providing a product that acually works, I am out $50. That is the least of it though - I'm also out many dozens of hours which I've WASTED trying to update drivers, futzing with every possible patch and mod and .ini file suggestion, and scouring these boards day after day after day in vain trying to find ANY way to make this defective garbage work.

    I've been playing Civ series games for much of the last decade. But screw Sid Meier, I will never buy another piece of crap with his name on it as long as I live.

    Money
    Grubbing
    Scumbags
     
  15. Efexeye

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    Come on, anomalek, tell us how you REALLY feel!

    :D
     
  16. Efexeye

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    I believe the first "critical patch"- the one that fixed the ATI error, was out in the first week, wasn't it?

    As far as patches that optimize the game to run on low spec hardware...well, we've got one. I doubt another one is going to come out before the end of the year...and I hearilty disagree with the poster that claims that people aren't complaining any more simply because they don't have time to complain. They aren't complaining any more because between the official patch and Harkonnen's patch, most people that couldn't play it before can play it now, IMHO.
     
  17. blue3c

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    That was not a patch, A patch is something you install that fixes a problem. The first work around came out in the first two weeks. You installed a third party program, unpacked a file to a certain directory. That is not a fix or a patch. That is a WORK AROUND.
    low spec hardware, high end machine as long as it is listed on the side of the box. I could care less. It should work with any setup listed. Or they should reconsider what they put on there box. But again that would assume they properly test the program to see what hardware it will work on. Cause as we have seen with the ATI cards and the first work around you spoke of. Guessing just ain't gonna cut it.
    And as for your HO on why most of the people complaining have stopped. I believe just the opposite. I believe alot of people have just given up. New gamers and not so technical gamers think it is something they have done and give up.
    Others who have come here, who are not so technical, have also just given up.
    After all, as you have pointed out. It is the holiday season, and I am sure the average gamer has more things to do then struggle with a game. There are to many new games out there that actually work right out of the box. I know that sounds hard to believe, but it does exist. The game the works right out of the box. Sarcasim intended. Sorry.
    The only thing I can say is we could go back and forth here all year, or at least until they fix this game. At which time I will be playing and not have time to come in here and chat. Lets just agree to diagree. Lets just agree that you love this piece of crap company that couldn't program a simple game of tic tac doe, and I see it for what it really is. :p
     
  18. Efexeye

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    No, I'm not going to agree to that statement. What right do you have to call Firaxis a piece of crap company? Because you're one of a small percentage of people that can't get the game to run?

    TOTALLY unfair. You seem to think that I have some strange forbidden love of Firaxis, I could care less WHO put this game out, I simply don't like people that take cheap shots on message boards and will never have to answer for them.

    Do you think that Firaxians are superhuman, or something? That the nasty things you are saying have no effect? Okay, they probably don't, you're just one shmuck on a message board. Still, someone at Firaxis is reading your vitriol and I'm sure it's not improving their day.

    I asked before if you had a job, and how you would feel about constant nasty criticism, and you never answered, so I'll just assume that you don't have a job and haven't experienced it firsthand.

    It's real easy to rip Firaxis on these boards, but I guarantee that if Sid and Soren showed up at your house, you'd clam up with your puerile and baseless insults REAL quick.
     
  19. Aussie_Lurker

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    All I can hope, blue3c, is that your latest outburst will finally see you consigned to the banned list where you belong, so that we can be spared your incessant outbursts and diatribes against what has been-for the majority of people-a fantastic gaming experience. Oh, but thats right, everyone who says they love the game and having few-if any-problems with it are all just lying through their teeth. Only YOU have access to the naked and unvarnished truth-for you are some god-like being who has the power to pull a perfectly working computer game (covering over 6000 years of history) out of his rear-end. Seriously, perhaps you need to take a month off and take your meds. Then try and make a game of your own-from scratch-just so you can see how easy it really is!!! :mischief:
     
  20. Overlag

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    some people are never happy....


    they release a patch to fix the game, and they complain.....
     

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