Yes I have a job. Two if you must know. Three if you count my happy existing in the Army. If I did in fact write a game full of bugs like this. I would expect people to be upset. Yes I have messed up and yes I have heard about from my customers. If I did do something to deserve it I happily shut my mouth and take my lumps. I also do all that is in my power to keep my customers informed on what I am doing to fix whatever it is that I may have messed up on. If I did not do this I would not have these customers. If sid and soren did show up at my door I would show them every error I see. I would also point out that they did infact drop the ball on this one. I would also say that I will never buy another product they make until it has been patched three or four times and sits on the bargin shelf. That my trust of any product they may come out with is gone. I would also ask why they are out signing a game and not back in the lab working on a fix. As for your guarentee of what I may or may not do. You do not know me. Do not assume anything. As for cheap shots. I have not said anything in here that I have not forwarded on to firaxis, with my name number email and address. So that kinda blows that out of the water. Aussie Lurker, I see you have joined in. Tell you what. Give me the staff and resources sid and soren have, and I will make that game. I will also throw in a new wrinkle. I will actually test it on more then two boxes. As for minority or majority, well as stated before you can not say that. You can say a majority in here.... blah blah blah. We have been over this. I love it when you chime in. You always have so much to say and yet still end up saying nothing. I do find it funny that instead of defending the game you both turn your attacks to me. So be it. But the game is still full of bugs. The official patch did not fix the game. The only patch that has really made a dent in the real issues with the game was made by a person who paid for the game. Not one who works there. The gaming industry is not doing well here folks. and just accepting it is not going to make it any different. If you really enjoy having to fix what somebody else sold you. fine. Enjoy it. Personlly I call that garage saling. Where you buy something that you know needs to be fixed, cause usually it is used. Well guess what, these games are not used. They are new. They even have a little section on the side of the box that says if you have this it will work. Not maybe, not kinda. To back this all up we even have game reviewers who do not even review the game. Are you telling me that not one of those reviewers had an ati card? hmmmmm.