Personal info at a glance

[Loppan Torkel]

If your looking for particular jobs nowadays, the employer have either the right or the responsibility to check your potential criminal history. They may also do a more thorough research and google you or go to your facebook account to see your social network and behavior. I'm sure you've also seen the 'google-glasses' and similar where you can get data about a date at the date.

Say you could increase your chances for success with the lady, at the meeting, party, selling the car, etc by sharing more personal info than you do on facebook or through what you can share by just talking, by displaying it. You let people see your empty criminal record, your flawless 'payment history', your assets (if that's to your benefit), your perfect family, happy customers and so on.

Would you open up your life for other people, specific or in general, to see at a glance of you?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I'm not on Facebook for no particular reason. But I'm pretty open on-line and in real life. I don't mind sharing personal info.

 

[Patroklos]

Credit card numbers please. I am just curious

 

[Oruc]

I'm not on Facebook and i'm quite private so no. I'm usually trying to do the opposite these days removing public information about me

 

[GenMarshall]

I'd rather have my info on compleate lockdown and private.

 

[rugbyLEAGUEfan]

Only if the girls assets are also available for viewing

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Is there any risk in your minds that this will become a sort of reversed id-triangles, where not showing a flawless criminal record make you more suspicious and not showing a good ratings at whatever you'll be rated in will set you back in the competition?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Is there any risk in your minds that this will become a sort of reversed id-triangles, where not showing a flawless criminal record make you more suspicious and not showing a good ratings at whatever you'll be rated in will set you back in the competition?

I'm more worried that more companies will start using credit checks to determine eligability for jobs. I think it's a rediculous and abusive practice.

 

[Oruc]

Is there any risk in your minds that this will become a sort of reversed id-triangles, where not showing a flawless criminal record make you more suspicious and not showing a good ratings at whatever you'll be rated in will set you back in the competition?

What's an id-triangle? but yes that is a risk, I have read some reports of it happening in USA if you don't have Facebook and aren't willing to give them the password so they can look you don't get the job (the password thing was probably an isolated case), look what happened when that guy shot up the cinema I read a news story where they said if you don't have facebook that's a good indicator you could so the same thing (they also mentioned the norwegian massmurderer breivik even though he actually had facebook).
It's basic common decency to allow people their privacy.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

What's an id-triangle? but yes that is a risk, I have read some reports of it happening in USA if you don't have Facebook and aren't willing to give them the password so they can look you don't get the job (the password thing was probably an isolated case), look what happened when that guy shot up the cinema I read a news story where they said if you don't have facebook that's a good indicator you could so the same thing (they also mentioned the norwegian massmurderer breivik even though he actually had facebook).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges

Nazi concentration camp badges, primarily triangles, were part of the system of identification in Nazi camps. They were used in the concentration camps in the Nazi-occupied countries to identify the reason the prisoners had been placed there.[1] The triangles were made of fabric and were sewn on jackets and trousers of the prisoners. These mandatory badges of shame had specific meanings indicated by their colour and shape.

People could see that you were gay by just looking at you. If most people start displaying their sexuality or criminal records, those who don't may be hiding something. ..or be a potential mass murderer...

 

[LucyDuke]

Is there any risk in your minds that this will become a sort of reversed id-triangles, where not showing a flawless criminal record make you more suspicious and not showing a good ratings at whatever you'll be rated in will set you back in the competition?

Eventually, sure. I think with criminal records it's not something you can really show off before it's actually checked, but in general, yeah, obviously competition will be competitive.

People could see that you were gay by just looking at you. If most people start displaying their sexuality or criminal records, those who don't may be hiding something. ..or be a potential mass murderer...

Or just value privacy. It's not unheard of, right now, for people to not want to talk about things we'd normally expect them to be willing to discuss. We still understand it. I don't think we're going to forget.

 

[Oruc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges

People could see that you were gay by just looking at you. If most people start displaying their sexuality or criminal records, those who don't may be hiding something. ..or be a potential mass murderer...

Well before I got this job (or even my past agency temporary work) I had to tell them if I had past convictions, because if you don't tell them and they check you get fired.

Nothing much I can do about them assuming I'm hiding something, I'm more suspicous of their interest in my personal life.

 

[Loppan Torkel]

Or just value privacy. It's not unheard of, right now, for people to not want to talk about things we'd normally expect them to be willing to discuss. We still understand it. I don't think we're going to forget.

Although, you must have seen that privacy in general is eroding and that more people are far more open about their personal life than before. If it can be used to your benefit, people will use it. I'm not sure there are enough people concerned about it and I believe when hiring someone today, the employers will in fact check your facebook account to get to know you more. Doesn't most people snoop up every bit of info available if they get the chance?

 

[GoodSarmatian]

My (potential) employer can have my non-existant criminal record and the things he need to pay my wage. Everything else is none of his business.
I don't have facebook account, and if I ever feel the need to open one it will be under a fake name that will only be known to my RL friends.

 

[Farm Boy]

I'm more worried that more companies will start using credit checks to determine eligability for jobs. I think it's a rediculous and abusive practice.

It's not that uncommon now. HR managers really need better things to do with their time than snoop through facebook accounts, but alas, it seems to be a common recreational activity nowadays.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

It's not that uncommon now. HR managers really need better things to do with their time than snoop through facebook accounts, but alas, it seems to be a common recreational activity nowadays.

Well I can understand criminal checks and even facebook/linkedin to an extent. But credit checks are beyond the pale.

 

[Janig]

Although, you must have seen that privacy in general is eroding and that more people are far more open about their personal life than before. If it can be used to your benefit, people will use it. I'm not sure there are enough people concerned about it and I believe when hiring someone today, the employers will in fact check your facebook account to get to know you more. Doesn't most people snoop up every bit of info available if they get the chance?

Only the interesting stuff. To be open on facebook creates an honest image. To be open on an anonymous website is exhibitionism.

 

[Quintillus]

I mean, most of the stuff you used as examples aren't really things I want to advertise, even if they are good. For a few reasons.

If I have a great credit history/payment history, that's great. And when I apply for a loan, the bank will see that, which makes sense... it's relevant information if they're offering me a loan. But I don't need to put that on Facebook and make any friends who do have bad credit feel bad in comparison. Same with, say, getting a 2400 on the SAT, landing a $100K+ job, etc. Being flashy about it isn't going to make you any friends (though perhaps some frenemies), and you can disclose it to those to whom it's relevant. Or amongst your close friends whom you discuss that sort of thing with (as well as your less successful endeavours).

Perfect family... a lot of people do share that via Facebook (think baby photos). But not necessarily more so than they do in, say, pictures in their house. And most people do so as status/photo updates, not putting in their info "I have the greatest family ever!!1!!". And generally, when people do start excessively posting "I have the best boy/girlfriend ever"... it gets old pretty quickly. Everyone who views your Facebook doesn't need to read that.

It frankly seems like it'd be really bad customer service to list happy customers on Facebook or LinkedIn, at least by name. There's a general expectation of more privacy than that when conducting business. If a customer volunteers to be named as saying how much they like your product on your website, that's fine. And it can be OK to ask them if it's OK to publish some of their statements if they've expressed enthusiasm for one of your products, as long as it's clear No is an OK answer. But to really have good customer service, you need transparency about not using customers' statements as advertising without their permission.

(And I'm aware that a lot of companies aren't so good at this. That doesn't mean I think standards should be lowered)

I expect potential employers may look at my LinkedIn - it's similar to my resume except a bit more detail in places and a recommendation. But I expect they're unlikely to find my Facebook, and even if they do, they won't find much. If I wanted to broadcast information publically, I'd use Twitter, or more likely, write a blog. Job recruiters might get LinkedIn approval, but not Facebook.

Even amongst coworkers, they're only becoming Facebook friends if I think we're on enough of friends-terms that we'd be on good terms even if something brought us apart at a company level. For those I'm less sure about, LinkedIn is a possibility.