Pitboss game within the team

[robboo]

Tech trading after alpha. But can you talk about it? I see 2 trains of thought...one its just talking about it since you need a "written" ( alphabet) document to transfer knowledge. OR you cant talk about it because in the single player game you cant.

I think we should be able to talk about it....if anything you might be able to bluff someone into thinking you are weaker or stronger than what you are... Just like thye do in the game when they say "fear my archer" or what ever.

 

[grs]

Talking seems ok to me to. Let's just use the game restrictions.

 

[BCLG100]

I think talking should be fine, because you obviously cant trade them until alphabet anyways.

 

[GeorgeOP]

Talking's fine? Ok, everyone needs to fear the 10 Modern Armors I have

 

[DaveMcW]

Ingame, you can't see what techs everyone has until Alphabet. I think that should apply to discussions as well.

 

[DaveShack]

Clearly tech trading would not be possible until Alphabet, but what about making agreements to work on different things?

One thing that should be limited, is (formal) contact only with players you've met in the game.

 

[Tubby Rower]

One thing that should be limited, is (formal) contact only with players you've met in the game

correct DS... But can I tell Whomp that when I find him .... he's dead? or is that off limits. cause Whomp should fear my worker!!!

I can see both sides to the Alpha arguement. I'm ambivilent on the issue. But until it is posted here "Thou shalt be able to jibber on about brainy stuff" I'll keep my mouth shut on techs until I (or the person I'm talking to) reaches Alpha.

 

[Whomp]

But can I tell Whomp that when I find him .... he's dead?

It may happen before you meet me!

Like open borders I think techs should not be discussed till alpha.

 

[BCLG100]

So how are we going to decide this or are we just all going to wait until alohabet and let it decide itself?

 

[robboo]

So how are we going to decide this or are we just all going to wait until alohabet and let it decide itself?

Alohabet...nice... I think our team can use that....

 

[grs]

I can live with both versions, but I really see no harm to talk about techs before alphabet. Denying it, would imho force some artificialness on contacts and chat.

Clearly, I agree with no contact out of the game before meeting ingame.

 

[Matrix]

Ingame, you can't see what techs everyone has until Alphabet. I think that should apply to discussions as well.

Which is exactly why I suggested it a few pages ago.

 

[Robi D]

Personally i don't see a problem discussing techs and open border before you have the techs that make them available with someone you met. The fact is you still can't do these trades until someone discovers writing and alphabet (I suppose currency too since it lets you exchange gold in the deals). Also i see it as taking a big risk unless you REALLY trust the person, because if you set your research path so you can maximise a trade with someone, there is nothing to stop them changing their minds when it comes time to swap leaving you without key techs in the process (personally i'm not that nasty, well usually anyway ). To talk about trade possiblities does add a bit of spice in my opinion, because there is no certainty in the talks being sucessful and lets face it how many over you would trust someone enough to switch your research proirities over on someones word they will honor the "hand shake" agreement when the time comes, especially so considering no one wants to be the first player to "voted off the island" (sorry for the bad survivor pun ). However if the majority of opinions is to not allow tech/open borders/map etc. trade talks until the available technology is available then i am happy to stick to it.

 

[grs]

It seems we are quite undecided, if I count the "votes" right for zalking about techs pre alpha.

yes: 4 (roboo, grs, bclg100, Robi D)
no: 3 (DaveMcW, Whomp, Matrix)

We should decide soon imho. What about setting a deadline for the vote 2 days from now and then take the majority?

 

[UnitQ]

I would love to join this fine group, but my pitboss wount work its in the main civ4 folder but when i try to start it, it sais this

The application has failed to start because boost_python-vic-1_32.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem

I did reinstall it, but it still wount work

 

[Tubby Rower]

UnitQ... You don't need Pitboss.. you just need to open Civ4... Multiplayer Menu... Direct IP... and then type in the IP address 68.63.191.219.

Select a civ that hasn't been taken, pick a password and take over from the AI.

 

[Mauer]

It seems we are quite undecided, if I count the "votes" right for zalking about techs pre alpha.

yes: 4 (roboo, grs, bclg100, Robi D)
no: 3 (DaveMcW, Whomp, Matrix)

We should decide soon imho. What about setting a deadline for the vote 2 days from now and then take the majority?

I vote no as well.

 

[robboo]

can I be considered an abstain. I dont feel strongly one way or other. I see both sides and cant really decide which I prefer...as of now. If this was a real poll I would not have voted till I fully thought it through and read the arguments for and against.

And right now I am leaning towards no instead of yes. DaveMcW argument is what really started me leaning towards "NO". You cant see it in the game on the foriegn advisor screen so...why should you be able to talk about it.

 

[grs]

talking about techs pre alpha.

yes: 3 (grs, bclg100, Robi D)
no: 4 (DaveMcW, Whomp, Matrix, Mauer)

 

[Tubby Rower]

I'd be abstain as well. I honestly don't care, but I think that everyone should be the same.