AutomatedTeller
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They are expansionist and commercial - fast research seems like the thing to do.
In other words, try a Sid conquest game
In other words, try a Sid conquest game
Playing with unpopular civs
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There are no Hittite culture games in the HOF. So I say you beat 1650 on large emperor 20k.
You're right, Sanabas. I forgot to look at that. I've already started a DG fast research (Diplo or SS) game with them. I missed out on the Republic SS but still got it first so all civs are at tech parity at 750BC. I have a decent number of resources at the moment so I'll see how it goes. I'll be walking a tightrope with this one as I have a just a few warriors and a three man chariot (hurrah!) so if I get set upon in the next few turns, I'll maybe give the 20K idea a go.
I won't take you up on your suggestion, AT, but thanks anyway.
BTW have you seen England's profile. It is the most balanced of civs with one of each VC submitted. (I like to think of my homeland as being well-balanced.
). OTOH Spain has the least variety with all but one submission being for 20K. Maybe that's down to you and your article, sanabas.
@Dianthus/'slug: are these graphs 'live' as they seem to have changed from last week?
I won't take you up on your suggestion, AT, but thanks anyway.
BTW have you seen England's profile. It is the most balanced of civs with one of each VC submitted. (I like to think of my homeland as being well-balanced.
). OTOH Spain has the least variety with all but one submission being for 20K. Maybe that's down to you and your article, sanabas. @Dianthus/'slug: are these graphs 'live' as they seem to have changed from last week?
Tone said:BTW have you seen England's profile. It is the most balanced of civs with one of each VC submitted. (I like to think of my homeland as being well-balanced.
I just had a look, it would appear to be partly down to me, as 6 of the 13 spanish games are mine.
Pretty sure they're automatically updated when games are accepted.
superslug said:
According to the stats, there are 4 Viking 20k games. I can only find one on a quick look through the tables. I've also noticed the stats change after I've submitted a game in the past. So I'm very sure it is done on acceptance, not publication. I vaguely recall something in the stats, possibly on the pie charts or weekly submissions saying that they include all accepted games.
On a vaguely related note, somebody who is not Tone or myself needs to submit a standard, 20k demigod game as the Byzantines, and we'll have an entire table filled with 10 games from just one civ.
@archphoenix: if you're watching this, you're counted out of this one as well. I can't remember it but that must have been a gauntlet at some point.sanabas said:
I think that you are right about the graphs updating on submission as I swear that it's changed again. We'll have to wait for official comfirmation from Dianthus. (I hope that it's true or I'm losing my marbles.)
I just checked the .php to make absolutely sure, and yes, that graph includes all accepted games. It doesn't wait for them to be published first.superslug said:
AutomatedTeller
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It was, in fact, a gauntlet. It was the may-june one, I think. That was the game where I tried to plant a spy with the russians with about 10 turns to go, only to have cathy declare war and take my undefended capitol/wonder city with marines. Maybe I'll run another as the Byanztines - that was a fun game.
AutomatedTeller
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it was after 7 hours of play. The gauntlet was about to close - I had spent much of my civ that month in my futile effort to beat Moonsingers 1265 20K date - I had one game in that effort that would have been within a century of that, but the research labs from SETI (or is that internet? I get those mixed up) gave me a really bad domination date instead
I remember that one as well. Do I remember more about your games than my own?!!!
IMO getting a win date in the 1300's is a Big Thing. There's only a handful of games where that's happened so I can understand your frustration..
IMO getting a win date in the 1300's is a Big Thing. There's only a handful of games where that's happened so I can understand your frustration..
Tone said:BTW have you seen England's profile. It is the most balanced of civs with one of each VC submitted. (I like to think of my homeland as being well-balanced.
Well, I contributed the Histographic for England. I picked them because I wanted to try them out for conquests, new Man O War and all, plus there weren't any histographic for England at the time. I'm responsible for one of those Spainish 20k games.
Bartleby
Remembers laughter
I'm the English Diplomat.
So, I played the Hittites as I mentioned earlier. A large Pangea at DG level with all nine scientific civs as my rivals.
This beats the current HoF top slot comfortably (1806AD).
No SGLs. No Republic SS. Minimal help from the AI once I got to physics. The only mandatory techs they research for me past astro/chem were:
OK. So it was partly my fault in that my response to the Persian sneak attack was to get a few allies. However I only had 3 cavs, a knight and a dozen warriors. What was I supposed to do? I took peace as soon as I could but by then the whole world was in a major conflict that never resolved itself. I kept gifting them but they never got their act together.
Considering all this, it wasn't a bad time.
Oh, and I only built one 3-man chariot. It lost on its first attack.
Korea next. Good. It's been a while since I've seen an SGL so maybe they'll help me out in this respect.
This beats the current HoF top slot comfortably (1806AD).
No SGLs. No Republic SS. Minimal help from the AI once I got to physics. The only mandatory techs they research for me past astro/chem were:
Rep Parts. (100%)
Corporation. (However I had two turns left when several civs got it at once. I bought it for 10g but could not use the time saved as ToE was soon to be completed)
Space Flight. (But only once I had researched all other SS tech lines and when had one turn left on this one so absolutely minimal assistance in Modern Times.)
Corporation. (However I had two turns left when several civs got it at once. I bought it for 10g but could not use the time saved as ToE was soon to be completed)
Space Flight. (But only once I had researched all other SS tech lines and when had one turn left on this one so absolutely minimal assistance in Modern Times.)
OK. So it was partly my fault in that my response to the Persian sneak attack was to get a few allies. However I only had 3 cavs, a knight and a dozen warriors. What was I supposed to do? I took peace as soon as I could but by then the whole world was in a major conflict that never resolved itself. I kept gifting them but they never got their act together.
Considering all this, it wasn't a bad time.
Oh, and I only built one 3-man chariot. It lost on its first attack.
Korea next. Good. It's been a while since I've seen an SGL so maybe they'll help me out in this respect.
AutomatedTeller
Frequent poster
nah - I just make spectacular mistakes and complain about them
azzaman333
meh
Tone said:
Cross your fingers and pray to the RNG?
zerksees
in remission
Eliminate one of themTone said:
In this case it would have been eliminate several of them! There were no fixed alliances, it seemed to be almost all against all at one point so eliminating one would still have left them with plenty of other enemies.
That kind of defeats the object of having them there in the first place though. i.e. some strong research partners with free techs every so often.
That kind of defeats the object of having them there in the first place though. i.e. some strong research partners with free techs every so often.
