Possible Limitations of Feitoria

[Eagle Pursuit]

That would be true of the AI knew how to utilize defensive structures. I rarely see them stay inside a citadel or fort or even keep a unit inside the city walls unless it's damaged.

 

[bdporter]

That would be true of the AI knew how to utilize defensive structures. I rarely see them stay inside a citadel or fort

If they even have a citadel or fort.

 

[Pengui6668]

The Moai can only be built on coastal tiles. The Terrace Farm is only useful next to Mountains. The Polder can only be built on marshes and floodplains. These are all restrictions. Why is it different for the Feitoria to have a restriction. The issue is balance, not arbitrarily applying one restriction to another.

The claim here is that the Feitoria is overpowered. If that is indeed the case (I'm not saying it is, btw), limiting it to cities that don't have an ally with someone else is a logical change. Limiting the Polder in the same way doesn't make as much sense. I take it you're a fan of Portugal based on your avatar, but I think you're thinking this is an attack on Portugal when it's really just speculation on overall game balance.

I'm sure someone already said this, but it can only be built on coastal tiles. That being said, I'm not sure I've seen any city-states that weren't on the coast, but I can't be sure. I've only put maybe 60 hours into Civ 5, and I basically ignored CS relations the entire time. (I'm a bad person, I know)

 

[XboxAddict77]

True. Also, what happens if the city-state already has all of its coastal tiles improved? Are you allowed to replace one of their improvements?

Yes your allowed to replace their improvements.

 

[JSMCAG]

Yes your allowed to replace their improvements.

Makes me feel like the biggest jerk!
"Oh, you just built a farm there? How sweet... Now, let me destroy your hard work so that you can ship me your Luxuries - your starving people be dammed!"

 

[attorneyatlol]

I don't seem to be able to trade the extra copy I get when I have a feitoria + allies with the CS. I have the extra copies but they don't show up in trade screen. What's the point of getting double copies if they can't be traded?

 

[Pengui6668]

I don't seem to be able to trade the extra copy I get when I have a feitoria + allies with the CS. I have the extra copies but they don't show up in trade screen. What's the point of getting double copies if they can't be traded?

damn good question.

 

[Anarchist]

And can the feitoria be removed by CS workers building something else?

 

[JSMCAG]

I don't seem to be able to trade the extra copy I get when I have a feitoria + allies with the CS. I have the extra copies but they don't show up in trade screen. What's the point of getting double copies if they can't be traded?

Apparently, you are not supposed to. You can, however, trade your own copies of the luxury if you have a Feitoria giving a copy to you too.
The tool-tip no longer tells you that you get two copies either way, so that tool tip we saw back when Portugal was announced was just a work in progress...

And can the feitoria be removed by CS workers building something else?

Nope - removing a Feitoria is an act of aggression against Portugal.
In the very least, City-States haven't removed mine!

 

[Seek]

I don't seem to be able to trade the extra copy I get when I have a feitoria + allies with the CS. I have the extra copies but they don't show up in trade screen. What's the point of getting double copies if they can't be traded?

The benefit is to get the lux without being allied, not to have two copies. Allying still has benefits via the increase of CS yield and access to their strategics.

And can the feitoria be removed by CS workers building something else?

Nope, the tile technically becomes a part of the Portugese empire. I think CS units can't even walk on the tile but I haven't tested it.

Edit: ninja'd

 

[Luziadus]

The benefit is to get the lux without being allied, not to have two copies. Allying still has benefits via the increase of CS yield and access to their strategics.

but let be real, being a ally with a city state cost too much money to keep the influence if you give money, and not easy to keep it as a ally for too long.

 

[JSMCAG]

but let be real, being a ally with a city state cost too much money to keep the influence if you give money, and not easy to keep it as a ally for too long.

If you're playing as Portugal, you're swimming in money anyway!
But it is nice that we can concentrate on buying buildings, units and votes, as the Feitoria gives us the happiness we need!

 

[George Abitbol]

My current game: Portugal on Continents, all the CS are coastal!
Beeline Astronomy, upgrad Nau from trireme, explore and found CS, sell your goods, build a flleet of 4-5 workers, send them a dozen of turn before Navigation, swim in happiness!

A small question: What does the Feitoria became if the CS is captured? Does it still provide a defensive bonus?

 

[reddishrecue]

The feitoria should still provide the 50% defensive bonus when captured, but shouldn't provide the extra copy of the resource in the city anymore.

 

[George Abitbol]

I also noticed that is possible to build mutilple Feitorias in the same CS (I didn't try, but the building button is still available).

 

[reddishrecue]

You can build more than one feitorias but you still get one copy for each different resource that you don't have.