PRE-NES THREAD: ImmacuNES IIB: Emperor of the Fading Heavens (Redux)

[hbar]

My Military 'space' stat is zero, but I have a dropship and glide infantry. Intended?

 

[Immaculate]

My Military 'space' stat is zero, but I have a dropship and glide infantry. Intended?

no-thanks for catching

 

[Haseri]

Same with me.

 

[Immaculate]

Same with me.

You don't have a combat-based space-faring unit group. In your case the quality rating of zero is intended.

 

[Haseri]

Oh, OK.

 

[germanicus12]

Okay, thanks...

The House Eekin's policy will be:

Order of Baelious.
We discover the brightest minds in the military and breed* them for leadership positions in the Eekin Military.

*Breeding= involves training in all aspects of warfare, membership into the Brothers Battle, and learning military tactics and strategy. Thus creating the Ultimate Leaders.

I don't have my policy in my stats.

 

[Immaculate]

Fixed- thanks for your keen eyes.

 

[Diamondeye]

Starting this weekend sounds amazing, but I'm going to be really busy working this next week. I'll try to see how much time I can spare for this, but here's an apology in advance if my commitment seems lacking; From monday, I have work every day for a week, plus a couple of other things I have to find time for.

I'll do my best

 

[hbar]

So how does one do infrastructure improvements in this NES? This is my first NES without a 'city manager' aspect, so if I want, say, a mutant kitten research lab, do I just guess at a cost, constantly bug Immac with PMs, or write a story? All three?

Also, are research income points re-allocatable? Can I choose to specialize in physics, or does that happen organically based on my actions and words?

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Starting this weekend would make life... interesting...

 

[Immaculate]

So how does one do infrastructure improvements in this NES? This is my first NES without a 'city manager' aspect, so if I want, say, a mutant kitten research lab, do I just guess at a cost, constantly bug Immac with PMs, or write a story? All three?

Well, generally if you spend less than 25EP or 1 turn its a fairly minor project and you will get some advantage to your stats but i won't keep track of it as a fiefdom.

Generally you'll get out of your spending and orders what you put into them so if you spend 15 million firebirds over 1 turn, you're basically building a minor Mutant Kitten research lab and you might get an extra 2-5 biotech research points per turn.

If you spend 45 million firebirds and allow your workers and specialist to collect the personel and build the infrastructure over 3 turns you are building a much larger, world-class Mutant Kitten research center, like a modern academic institution slash puppy mill and you might produce 15 or more research points per turn.


Taking your time building bigger projects helps- if you want to spend a lot of money all in one turn, you are paying to hurry the project -which isn't so bad for smaller projects but with 1year/turn, it doesn't make sense to build a new carrier ship in one turn- its just too big and complex... the price would sky-rocket.


Anyway, its more about what you put into it (and the character traits of the individual leading the project) than a set price.


If you underspend, you can always add more firebirds the next turn. if you overspend, i'll spend what was required and bank the rest of your funds.

Also, are research income points re-allocatable? Can I choose to specialize in physics, or does that happen organically based on my actions and words?

Not generally no.

If you build Giant Killer Mutant Kittens of Death research centers, it will probably go towards biotech. if you build materials engineering- it will go towards physics, etc.

 

[Immaculate]

LAUNCHED

 

[Diamondeye]

I seem to have no luck in loading the entire first page due to its sheer size. Are others having the same problem as me?

I have not read posts #19 and #20 in the original thread, but I had the impression that 18 was the last of Immac's... Do they contain anything important? Can anyone link them as single-posts?

 

[Immaculate]

Query, Texier, Eekin, in that order.

I did not use numbers but descriptors for stats. I found that everything was too hard to 'quantify' and updating was difficult. Also, the trade system with ‘fair’, ‘unfair’ etcetera was unwieldy without providing benefits.



I will quantify stats directly with numbers. Trade will just be part of the Economy of a nation.



Overall it will be similar but there will be more 'guts' to the rules to make moderating it easier for me. Also- i am incorporating some rules from other NESes i liked- like unique unit designs (from the lizard king) and policies and standardized order sets (from Birdjaguar).

Okay that sounds good. The trade system was my main issue with the original ImmacuNES 2.

Those are posts 18-20.

 

[Diamondeye]

No no, I meant the posts in the other thread (the game thread). I can read this one very well

 

[Immaculate]

No no, I meant the posts in the other thread (the game thread). I can read this one very well

Update 0: Almost an Emperor



How are the mighty fallen in the midst of the battle! O Jonathan, [thou wast] slain in thine high places.​

2 Samuel 1:25, King James Bible​

”Vladimir Eekin- Chosen of the Light”, painting by Ryasophor Abbot Jelvus Kaern​

My most esteemed grace, Cardinal Quelus Heventi,


The will of the Pancreator will always be too great, to complex, too convoluted for a simple deacon such as I, but should the Celestial Light shine upon me and my prayers be answered, I will be granted some small fraction of understanding and what I write to you today will hold some small germ of truth. I am a simple clergyman who has been blessed with quick ears and a quiet tongue, and so I prepare for you this treatise, an account of what I have heard whispered amongst the great cathedrals and nobles’ halls of Errovus Secondus. Much of what I write today is conjecture and rumor, but in your wisdom, through the grace of the Celestial Light, you will apprehend the tiny spark of Celestial truth that lies at the base of these whispers and understand better than I the worries and troubles of nobles’ serfs, guilders, and freemen alike.


In my travels throughout the halls of the nobles and serfs alike, there is one name on everyone’s lips- Vladimir Eekin- the man who very nearly united us like never before. We all know him to be a great man, a friend of the Orthodoxy and the serfs alike, a man of strength and wisdom who created the Fleet and Garrison to protect us from the new evil of Symbiots unleashed upon us by the hubris of the Eviis, who created the Eye so that the wars that have fallen upon the nobles houses since the departure of the heathen transcendentals might not return. His murder is acclaimed as tragic by all- and yet there must be one whom in his dark-blighted heart celebrates the death of this great man. All whisper and wonder as to who may have been responsible, who may have been the one to have poisoned the crown that would usher in the first era of peace and unity in 1200 turns of Errovus around fading Sol…. …and many point fingers. Many think it the League of Guilds, the work of those who fought so desperately against the rise of the nobility in times pass. Many others thought it one of the five great houses, jealous that their own nobles did not rise to prominence. Some, I am afraid my liege, wrongfully blame the Orthodoxy, protectors of their very souls, making many unthoughtful comments I will not repeat to you.

Blessed be the light; soon, when the 1st of January arrives upon Holy Errovus, the chosen, those who wield scepters of law, will be called to choose a regent, one to hold the throne, in temporary custody, until a new emperor can be acclaimed by all. Already rumors of who might run for this great office abound. Many say the Eekin will continue the tradition begun by Vladimir, others that the temporary regent promptae, Michelos van Hersula of House Holy Gate will attempt to continue his appointment. Certes, throughout the halls of the minor nobility, rumours and suspicious abound and I have never heard a name not suggested to be involved in plotting their rise to this great vaunted position. Only by the grace of the Celestial Light will a new Regent be chosen and it is this that we humble clerics must make evident to the nobles and guilders. I pray for the Pancreator’s guidance in this mission every night’s vespers.

But the assassination of Vladimir Eekin is not the only prattle the nobles blather of. They speak also of the incident at the Bazaar of Mam at House Klorin’s fiefdom on Incellia. What little truth I have been able to gather regarding the incident, amongst all the rumors and exaggerations tells of a women traveling amongst the merchants’ stalls when suddenly her very skin literally peals itself from her body, revealing a much more slender, and sinister frame beneath- one of the exiled ones- an elf. Before continuing regarding the fate of one of the interdicted race, I will mention briefly what I have heard regarding the second skin she wore as you or I might a garment. It appears to be a living creature, and to have reacted to the wares of an apothecary selling nectars from exotic Assimov. The fate of the guilder or his wares remains a mystery however. Returning to the elf, a crowd soon surrounded her, shouting the litany of sins her foul race has poured upon those who suffer and toil under the Celestial light; soon one threw a stone and then the mob’s momentum was too great. Inspired by the holy vengeance of the Pancreator himself, the crowd slew the apostate as she attempted to flee. Her body was delivered by the city guard to the nobles of House Klorin, its ultimate fate a mystery to mine ears.

There is also the matter of asynchronous use of Assimov’s jumpgate. As we all know from our childhood lessons at the feet of the chartophylax, the Pancreator has deemed fit to link those orbs most suitable for use by we, his chosen people, with the incogitable Jumpgates, so that we might spread word of his greatness. We also know that when one invokes the ineffable jump engines to errare from one gate to another, both gates begin to throb and glow with light and movement in dim mimicry of the Celestial Light. We also know that the Jumpgate of Assimov connects to only one other Jumpgate, that of Errovus Secondus. And yet, in the Errovus month of October, the gate of Assimov awoke as if to admit some traveler and yet the gate of Errovus Secondus remained darkened and slumbering. To further confound this mystery, Cardinal, no ships were seen to travel through the awoken gate of Assimov. You know as well as I that the Imperial eye operates secret facilities upon this exotic orb, perhaps they are somehow manipulating the gate… or travelling thereby to lands we know not of? In your wisdom my liege, you no doubt know more.

Lastly there is an issue of immediate concern of mine and that is the souls of the freemen of Errovus Secondus. Alas, the nobles and guilders alike, though they claim to concern themselves and care for the freemen who swear no allegiance to their houses, care not for the masses. Even now, as in times past, their numbers are greater than the foodstuffs available to them. Starvation and misery are common amongst them, the freemen, and even threatens to overtake the serfs of the smaller houses. They clamor righteously for food for their mouths so that they may better serve the Pancreator but their plight is ignored. The bodies of the starved are piled in the streets, food for dogs, and I am afraid to say, the desperate men and women who would rather survive, damning themselves through cannibalism than to die with pure souls. The Reeves and Charioteers, I am assured, are looking to find product they can bring to the markets of Errovus Secondus but the Farmers’ and Fishers’ guilds, I am told, are producing all they can and most of this is exported to Leagueheim. Perhaps piety amongst the nobles will bring them to cooperation and a means of feeding the masses of this world. Surely there is profit in it for those who’s piety is sorely lacking.

And so, my liege, I entrust upon you this report in the hopes that you can find some small measure of credible news within it with which to shape your prayers and discussions.

Your loving servant, Deacon Hevrett Vron​

NPC Diplo

From Seraed Aekraiah of the Charioteers Guild,
To the Various Noble Houses,

After speaking with Garren Grimkill of the Authority, we believe we are in a position to import and distribute foodstuffs to Errovus Secondus and hopefully thereby, alleviate some of the starvation suffered by the masses. We are in need now of food to distribute and the means to load it onto our ships.

Will one ore more noble houses come together to provide food to Errovus Secondus, preferably at a planetary or even better, orbital spaceport?

(the import of foodstuffs to Errovus Secondus could produce anywhere from 10 to 18 MF, with current inflated food prices on Errovus Secondus, depending on the price of food at the planet on which it is produced and the number of jumps involved to transport it)

From the offices of Jason Avivies of the Guild of Reeves
To House Klorin

We wish to open a house of Usury at the Bazaar of Mam. Will you allow us to open this chapter house? We would need to be able to set our own guards to protect the funds held therein of course and so we would also need your permission to deploy our armed forces.



Moderator's Notes:

I want to work on fixing up the maps for the various planets but its a matter of style, not content and so we can launch 'as is' without it being a problem i hope.

I hope to get the new style maps done soon enough...

From Alex Black, Scepter Holder, House Query
To Seraed Aekraiah of the Charioteers Guild

House Query is more than willing to hear your proposal and is willing to help within its means.

We will need a House with significant agricultural wealth to step forward and work with a house with access to spaceports, to together provide a means of exporting foods that we would then pick up and deliver to the Authority spaceport on E2. We will need the Noble Houses to arrange a proposal.

hope this helps.