Predict-the-Patch
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Brad Oliver
Civ3/4 Mac programmer
Zaimejs said:
That would be crazy, so I'm gonna say no.
FWIW, it's looking like 10.4.7 has done us a great deal of harm. Initial reports are that the sound works great in 10.4.6, and that the initial (non-a) release of 10.4.7 causes all the kernel panics and lock-ups.
So if you're hankering for a good Mac Civ4 experience and are not afraid of 10.4.6, that's your best bet until we can work around all this chaos.
Before i reinstall my system back down to 10.4.6 on my iMac G5 2.0g radeon9600 128mb - would it speed up the game overall or will it just fix the sound? The speed seems a little slow with all gfx in low but this could just be how it is on my mac.
Check the thread below this for Brad's understanding on what 10.4.7 did for performance as well as sound and stability
Brad Oliver
Civ3/4 Mac programmer
therocky said:
I would hold off doing that. It seems that a version earlier than 10.4.6 may be better, but we still don't know.
ejday
King
Patch: Monday, July 17 (after much wailing and gnashing of teeth in Userland and Aspyr alike).
The game apparently wasn't tested ....
Aspyr should just hurry up and go out of business. Apple should hurry up and get some decent hardware for what they are charging. There is no reason mac users pay upwards of $1600 to get a slideshow, whereas I and virtually everyone else can run it on a $1000 windows PC flawlessly.
I'm surprised you people haven't laughed Brad out of these forums for relying on you all to test his game for him.
Aspyr should just hurry up and go out of business. Apple should hurry up and get some decent hardware for what they are charging. There is no reason mac users pay upwards of $1600 to get a slideshow, whereas I and virtually everyone else can run it on a $1000 windows PC flawlessly.
I'm surprised you people haven't laughed Brad out of these forums for relying on you all to test his game for him.
jdevo
Warlord
Although I'm very dissapointed with the bad performance, I'm glad Brad is making an attempt to fix these problems... I feeling the game was rushed out.
of Trolls.Gatekeeper
Warlord
wiglaff said:
Are you the same Wiglaf who pops up on occasion at Apolyton and, invariably, is ignored, flamed or laughed off into lurkerdom?
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tone666@optusne
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Brad Oliver said:That would be crazy, so I'm gonna say no.
FWIW, it's looking like 10.4.7 has done us a great deal of harm. Initial reports are that the sound works great in 10.4.6, and that the initial (non-a) release of 10.4.7 causes all the kernel panics and lock-ups.
So if you're hankering for a good Mac Civ4 experience and are not afraid of 10.4.6, that's your best bet until we can work around all this chaos.
I had the same sound issues in both 10.4.6 and 10.4.7 on my first generation iMac G5 1.8 Ghz
ancestral
Warlord
I think you've got a biased sample. You're talking about one product which was released and we're hearing from some people who are having problems. We don't even know how many people may be affected, and you therefore conclude that the game wasn't tested?wiglaff said:
Your second comment about apple hardware is misleading. You do not note that Civ IV is not representative of other games out there, and that many PC users out there, especially with ATI cards had or still have issues running it themselves.
The third comment appears to be fallacious. Because the game is not working for some number of people (we don't know how many) the game must be flawed, and Brad who is just one employee at Aspyr should be laughed at?
Also, I don't follow the logical reasoning behind not submitting trouble to Aspyr. You also make it seem that they should be held responsible to test every configuration. Do you think Firaxis had much better luck? There are thousands upon thousands of different PC hardware configurations out there, and there were many problems on the PC side too. As far as testing, do you think Aspyr is relying just on a few people on this particular forum to test their game? I doubt it.
ejday
King
I know it's tempting to gut the reasoning of his post but don't bother. He doesn't care about content of responses, only that people wasted time to write responses. Probably didn't get enough love as a child (which is unfortunate, since his apparent intelligence is bested by the average 9-year-old).ancestral said:
Or, put simply: don't feed the trolls.
gfeier
King
Prediction - Tuesday August 1st
They're going to want to get it right the second time.
(Hope I'm wrong and it's sooner, of course, but it's never that simple.)
They're going to want to get it right the second time.
(Hope I'm wrong and it's sooner, of course, but it's never that simple.)
thegreatluke
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Saturday, July 15th, 2006.
Skippy_Kangaroo
Prince of Denmark
Last week of July - 24-28 July
Then mid-September to fix all the things left unfixed or that the patch broke.
Then early 2007 to fix all the things the fix of the fix broke and deal with 10.5 (or 10.4.8 and 10.4.9).
Then mid-September to fix all the things left unfixed or that the patch broke.
Then early 2007 to fix all the things the fix of the fix broke and deal with 10.5 (or 10.4.8 and 10.4.9).
gfeier
King
Skippy_Kangaroo said:
It's not a job, Brad, it's a career.
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