Premature Golden Age?

[Sweetchuck]

Here's something I've never seen before.

Just started a campaign, playing Maya against 4 random civs. Early in the game, I have 3 cities @ 3000 bc. I have a wandering javelin thrower who stumbled on another civ and a warrior/settler pair. My capital is 14 turns away from finishing my first wonder, the Pyrimids. No other wonders being built.

So, I pop the warrior - and suddenly I get a pop-up from an advisor "our civ has entered a golden age".

What's up with that?

 

[PaperBeetle]

Your UU won a battle, so you got a golden age. Nothing unusual here is there?

 

[Sweetchuck]

Your UU won a battle, so you got a golden age. Nothing unusual here is there?

I never knew that happened when a UU won a battle.

 

[Zibong]

One of the biggest disadvantages of Civs like Maya, Aztec, Sumeria, etc. with early UUs is that if their warrior/spearman/archer replacemets wins a battle before you can switch out of Despotism, you can't take full advantage of your Golden Age. Mayans get so many bonuses otherwise, though, that it can offset your early GA.

--Zib

 

[ThinkTank]

One of the biggest disadvantages of Civs like Maya, Aztec, Sumeria, etc. with early UUs is that if their warrior/spearman/archer replacemets wins a battle before you can switch out of Despotism, you can't take full advantage of your Golden Age. Mayans get so many bonuses otherwise, though, that it can offset your early GA.

--Zib

Even better is to prevent the early GA by only using Javelin throwers for enslaving barbarians, and using horses and swords to beat up the neighbours. Then only at the moment when you want your GA, you use the Javelin thrower against another civ.

 

[Theov]

Does that mean you can have 2 golden ages? or does this just trigger the GA??

(never knew a UU could bring you in a GA. - my first game with the Dutch, I did't even notice there was something special with my boats and I didn't have horses with the Hitties game)

 

[ThinkTank]

You can have only one GA. Winning a battle with your UU against barbarians does not trigger a GA.

That the Dutch have something special with their boats (3 move curraghs for example) is due to the seafaring trait, the Dutch UU is the Swiss mercenary.

 

[Theov]

That the Dutch have something special with their boats (3 move curraghs for example) is due to the seafaring trait, the Dutch UU is the Swiss mercenary.

You're right, my bad.
I guess I didn't use those Swiss a lot then.

 

[rysingsun]

some of us like despotic golden ages. it helps us to rush granaries for fast expansion phases. then it helps us to build settlers faster. and though i don't recall ever actually building the pyramids before it sure would be nice to do it with a golden age helping me.

 

[Sweetchuck]

Triggering a golden age that early on has a benefit that you can build units quicker and ice that neighboring civ before it starts growing too fast.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

I personally prefer late ancient age/early middle age golden ages. You actually have a decent base to build out of, and you're getting new wonders, governments, and units left and right.

 

[againsttheflow]

Triggering a golden age that early on has a benefit that you can build units quicker and ice that neighboring civ before it starts growing too fast.

But that is still offset a lot by the Despotism penalty.

Side note: the only other thing that can trigger a GA are wonders. Each wonder is assigned trait(s), once you have built wonders w/ traits that match your civs you can trigger a GA (which can happen w/ only one wonder; ie the Pyramids--industrious, religious, and agricultural--can trigger a GA for the Egyptians--industrious, religious)

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

No, UUs that are victorious in combat against an enemy combat unit also have a chance of triggering a GA.

 

[Sweetchuck]

No, UUs that are victorious in combat against an enemy combat unit also have a chance of triggering a GA.

Full circle - that was the topic of the thread.

 

[againsttheflow]

No, UUs that are victorious in combat against an enemy combat unit also have a chance of triggering a GA.

Side note: the only other thing that can trigger a GA are wonders. Each wonder is assigned trait(s), once you have built wonders w/ traits that match your civs you can trigger a GA (which can happen w/ only one wonder; ie the Pyramids--industrious, religious, and agricultural--can trigger a GA for the Egyptians--industrious, religious)

10 char

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

10 char

Sorry, you must still have been editing.

 

[againsttheflow]

I did edit but not that

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

"I just drive em', I don't know what makes em' work." -Oddball, Kelly's Heroes

That's what I read.

 

[againsttheflow]

Well I'm willing to grant that it may have been written wrong but since you have no quote to prove it and there's no sign of my editing it we'll just leave it as is.

 

[D0NIMATRIX]

If you edit within a minute or so of posting the edit thing doesn't appear.