[RD] Prevarication will set you Aside

The distinction between "majority" and "absolute majority" is usually that the former just means a majority of all votes cast, while the latter means a majority of all eligible voter. But, that's not always consistent.
No, it's about getting more than half of the votes. That the "votes" considered are the cast one or the potential ones is yet another matter.
The problem is that "absolute majority" is literally redundant, like saying "most biggest", so any distinctions are just convention, and there isn't a universally-accepted convention.
Err, no it isn't. Unless you don't understand the whole concept of "absolute".
The very point that "majority" doesn't mean "above 50 %" (as such making it a RELATIVE majority, i.e. you can only know if it's a majority if you also know the other votes) makes the "absolute" adjective not redundant (if you use "absolute", it means even if you don't know the other votes you know this one still the biggest, hence it means it has above half the votes).
 
In Australia absolute majority refers specifically to more than half of current Members of Parliament and is a requirement to pass certain votes according to the constitution.

This is in line with TF's post and is also my understanding of the term - that it's more than half of all possible votes.

This is as opposed to a majority or "simple majority" which is just more than half of those in attendance at a vote, or those actually casting a vote.
 
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I don't know.

It seems to me that what you're saying is right if it's a binary, or two party, issue.

But it's not right if there's more than two possibilities for a vote. Including abstentions.

In that case, a majority would be the largest number (often less than half) of votes cast for an issue, or candidate.

And an absolute majority has to be more than half the votes cast. And you might, or might not, count the non-casting of eligible votes as abstentions.
 
Okay, so here's what's going on wrt presidential elections.

The US electoral system for presidents means that only about a dozen states (those near 50-50 like FL and PA, or with recent strong swings like WI and MI) could even plausibly matter. And then within those states, only the voters who could plausibly either switch sides or decide whether or not to turn out actually matter. So a minority of a minority of all voters is what determines who actually wins. I certainly don't think this is a good setup but there is no chance of changing it by 2020.

These voters are disproportionately low-information (high-information ones have much more rigid political allegiances and high probabilities of voting). "Full swing voters" - those who could change their mind and vote for either party or stay home - in swing states are disproportionately white and working-class, which is inconvenient for the Left as it's currently construed but could be won back with a good candidate. Such a politician would be good at messaging to these voters. They would also, ideally simultaneously, be good at turning out minority and young populations in these states, many of whom are half-swing voters: they may turn out or not, depending on the level of engagement the candidate has with those populations, and vote overwhelmingly Democrat when they do turn out. Voter suppression is targeted at these people - politically active young and/or minority voters will still vote, but adding some further hurdles drives down turnout among the less engaged - those whose decision is between voting and not. The things that unite both full-swing and half-swing voters are disproportionately low socioeconomic class and low political engagement.

Obama appeared to have a "Blue Wall" because he was good at both of these tasks, easily winning the Rust Belt swing states on a combination of full-swing mostly-white voters and half-swing young and minority.voters. Hillary Clinton managed to lose those states because she was very bad at both of these tasks, suffering historic losses among full-swing voters in swing states and not turning out young and/or minority voters at the same time.

Most current Democratic Party politicians are much more Clinton-like than Obama-like in that they're also bad at winning plausible full-swing and half-swing voters, which is why they keep managing to pull defeat from the jaws of victory at all levels, even in the face of such a farcically bad candidate as Trump. It's true that some half-swing Republican voters were induced to vote by some combination of Trump's racism/sexism/etc and by his message of tearing down the current system. Those voters are numerically smaller but still enough to provide a margin of winning (edit to add: in an election as close as 2016).

I'm agnostic about whether such a candidate should be a full-throated economic populist - like a Sanders 2.0, now rebooted to be younger and and appeal better to minorities, or just a standard Democrat who is unusually charismatic and good at winning full-swing and half-swing voters - I call this Obama 2.0. It is plausible that either one could win.

What we definitely do not want is Clinton 3.0, or anyone who reminds people more of H. Clinton, or Schumer, or Pelosi, or Reid, than of either Obama or Sanders. There's some sort of delusional belief among these types of people (the "establishment Democrats", minus the few Obama-like ones with actual charisma) that they can swing enough upper-middle-class traditionally Republican voters to their side to actually matter on the basis of disgust with Trump and, even more delusionally, disgust with other Republicans. They also tend to overestimate demographic trends on short timescales. Yes, NC and GA and AZ, and behind them TX, are all trending Democrat ATM. But they're still more Republican than the nation on average, and the trend is slow enough that they will do maybe a couple percentage points better (compared to national vote swing) in these places 2020 than in 2016, and moreover the trend is flat in FL.

The only real ray of hope for these types of people is that the Sun Belt might eventually flip to them sometime in the 2024-2036 timespan, unless of course demography isn't really destiny and they manage to lose a compensating number of multi-generation Hispanic and/or Asian-descended voters, which actually did happen in at least some places in 2016. Also, they still have a whole lot of Senate seats to lose in Rep-trending states, as the 2018 map shows all too well. They are pretty close to rock-bottom from an EV perspective in the Midwest and Northeast though, with only 16 EVs left to lose (MN, NH, ME-statewide). But they're definitely not poised to claim any sort of advantage right now, and we'd best get the gerontocratic Third Way types to retire and replace them with younger, more charismatic, and probably more economically populist candidates.
 
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I'm agnostic about whether such a candidate should be a full-throated economic populist - like a Sanders 2.0, now rebooted to be younger and and appeal better to minorities, or just a standard Democrat who is unusually charismatic and good at winning full-swing and half-swing voters - I call this Obama 2.0. It is plausible that either one could win.
Clinton's problem wasn't about her (current) political positions, but her personality. She reflexively lied and hid information. Democratic voters saw through that BS and opted not to vote for her. Where Obama at least had the sense to make the lines he was feeding the base have the ring of verisimilitude, Clinton lied for no reason about things and in a manner that was immediately obvious. When the candidate you're supposed to be excited about, who everyone seems to be telling you should be excited about, and it becomes obvious that she doesn't respect you enough to tell the truth then it becomes difficult for Democratic voters to vote for her.
 
Clinton's problem wasn't about her (current) political positions, but her personality. She reflexively lied and hid information. Democratic voters saw through that BS and opted not to vote for her. Where Obama at least had the sense to make the lines he was feeding the base have the ring of verisimilitude, Clinton lied for no reason about things and in a manner that was immediately obvious. When the candidate you're supposed to be excited about, who everyone seems to be telling you should be excited about, and it becomes obvious that she doesn't respect you enough to tell the truth then it becomes difficult for Democratic voters to vote for her.
Wait your example is someone who got sick but is claiming to be fine? That's just decorum.
 
Sept 12, 2016. The NYT is chiding Clinton for choosing to hide her health issue in order to present an illusion of strength.

Right around this time, we start seeing the beginning of articles on writers' fatigue on reporting on Trump's propensity to lie all the time. Clinton has a charisma issue, there's no doubt. But there's no way to start a conversation about how her lying is 'worse' than Trump's. If we go for the theme of their falsehoods, liberals tend to overstate concerns they have about the uber-wealthy. Trump began his campaign by lying (brazenly) about low-power minorities, to make them the enemy.
 
Clinton's problem wasn't about her (current) political positions, but her personality. She reflexively lied and hid information. Democratic voters saw through that BS and opted not to vote for her. Where Obama at least had the sense to make the lines he was feeding the base have the ring of verisimilitude, Clinton lied for no reason about things and in a manner that was immediately obvious. When the candidate you're supposed to be excited about, who everyone seems to be telling you should be excited about, and it becomes obvious that she doesn't respect you enough to tell the truth then it becomes difficult for Democratic voters to vote for her.
It wasn't just that, it's that she seemed to be insincere even when she was totally sincere. It was a very weird thing - I don't think I've seen anyone quite so bad at conveying sincerity on things she really was telling the truth about. Most people including many (most?) of his voters knew Trump was just BSing most of the time, but his emotions came across as more genuine even when they weren't. He's a practiced entertainer, while she's a masterful technocrat but couldn't connect with an audience full of average people to save her life.
 
The distinction between "majority" and "absolute majority" is usually that the former just means a majority of all votes cast, while the latter means a majority of all eligible voter. But, that's not always consistent.

The problem is that "absolute majority" is literally redundant, like saying "most biggest", so any distinctions are just convention, and there isn't a universally-accepted convention.

I mean if you want to play the pedantic etymology games, plurality and majority mean literally the same thing.
 
It wasn't just that, it's that she seemed to be insincere even when she was totally sincere. It was a very weird thing - I don't think I've seen anyone quite so bad at conveying sincerity on things she really was telling the truth about.
It is because her consistent prevarications, combined with her frequent changes on political issues, did some serious damage to her trustworthiness.
 
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