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I think it's more a majorty that didn't want Dingus Dirtbag Donny
[RD] Prevarication will set you Aside
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BvBPL
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Clinton did not win a majority of votes. Nor did a majority of Americans support her in opinion polls.
Timsup2nothin
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Yes, she did get a majority of votes. Potential voters that didn't vote are not votes. Of the votes cast, she got a clear majority. Adding in "majority of Americans" obfuscates the matter even further...I assume intentionally.
So much ammunition? Where?
The media is doing some serious introspection about their 'fairness/equal time' policies in the wake of this. They have apparently recognized that "we are covering another outrage from Trump today, so we better rehash the e-mail thing again to get equal time" day after day after day actually had a strong effect on the outcome.
Lexicus
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Clinton got 48.2% of votes cast, not a majority.
Berzerker
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Akka
Moody old mage.
ma·jor·i·ty
məˈjôrədē,məˈjärədē/
noun
məˈjôrədē,məˈjärədē/
noun
- 1.
the greater number.
Lexicus
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That is interesting, because I've never heard 'majority' used this way, pretty much ever. Particularly when talking about an election, majority means greater than half. It is fairly obvious (to me anyway) that BvBPL meant "greater than half" when he said majority (though I've no idea what Hygro meant).
I also find this definition stupid as it creates a redundancy - 'plurality' covers this case. Hillary Clinton did win a plurality of votes.
MilesGregarius
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The proper term is "plurality." A majority is over 50 percent. A plurality is simply the most.
EDIT: What Lex said.
EDIT: What Lex said.
Akka
Moody old mage.
plu·ral·i·ty
plo͝oˈralədē/
noun
For the record, I've always heard and used "majority" to mean "the highest number". If it's above 50 percent, it's called "absolute majority". Seems this version of plurality is a US thing.
plo͝oˈralədē/
noun
- 1.
the fact or state of being plural.
"some languages add an extra syllable to mark plurality" - 2.
US
the number of votes cast for a candidate who receives more than any other but does not receive an absolute majority.
For the record, I've always heard and used "majority" to mean "the highest number". If it's above 50 percent, it's called "absolute majority". Seems this version of plurality is a US thing.
civvver
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It's not hillary clinton's fault she lost. She is very unlikable, but that is the way god made her, hence it's god's fault she lost.
Really though I blame the democrat party more than clinton. They basically just assumed it was her turn to run without anyone really challenging her, sanders was too far left for most americans and they actively sabotaged him anyway. Then the whole way they just assumed clinton was going to win. As almost a direct contrast to this, look at what Obama did in 2008- he came almost out of nowhere, captured the hearts and minds of his base who realized they didn't really like the establishment clinton that much and then went on to win the election. They didn't present any alternatives to clinton this time around, it's just like how republicans are pretty much to blame in 2012 when the economy still wasn't that great and obama was vulnerable and they put a total stiff in romney against him.
Really though I blame the democrat party more than clinton. They basically just assumed it was her turn to run without anyone really challenging her, sanders was too far left for most americans and they actively sabotaged him anyway. Then the whole way they just assumed clinton was going to win. As almost a direct contrast to this, look at what Obama did in 2008- he came almost out of nowhere, captured the hearts and minds of his base who realized they didn't really like the establishment clinton that much and then went on to win the election. They didn't present any alternatives to clinton this time around, it's just like how republicans are pretty much to blame in 2012 when the economy still wasn't that great and obama was vulnerable and they put a total stiff in romney against him.
Lexicus
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And yet, he's the most popular politician in the country!
Whut?
The only aspect of herself that she can't control is what she looks like. Everything else is changeable.
The constant trickle from wikileaks was unbeatable. Any political campaign of size would have generated ammunition that would have created such trickles. And the MSM was happy to run those headlines. They got clicks. The trickle was unbeatable
Lexicus
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Spoiler :
To elaborate a bit it is making fun of her....uh....failure to admit responsibility for losing the election.
But man if there were 15 candidates and the one with the miot votes got 12% is that then a "majority?
Hygro
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Plurality. Or a majority of voters who voted viably.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
The distinction between "majority" and "absolute majority" is usually that the former just means a majority of all votes cast, while the latter means a majority of all eligible voter. But, that's not always consistent.
The problem is that "absolute majority" is literally redundant, like saying "most biggest", so any distinctions are just convention, and there isn't a universally-accepted convention.
The problem is that "absolute majority" is literally redundant, like saying "most biggest", so any distinctions are just convention, and there isn't a universally-accepted convention.
That would mean you would actually have a leftist party in the US. Some people in power seem to prefer anything to that.
Yet if the system makes it possible to have just two parties, and one being right and the other more right, it leads to disenfranchised voters, which in turn can produce a nasty crisis.