JoeM
Imperator
Hamsters. Both should exist in peace.
Pro Isrial or Pro Palistine
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ulsterman88
4-2 Rangers rule supreme!
Defenitely pro-israel i have no sympathy for Islamic terrorists.
Exactly what is wrong with the 1967 borders for Israel? Until someone can answer this question with something other than "its too dangerous for Israel" I will support those borders as the boundary of a two state solution. The ball for such a solution is in Israel's court.
nivi
Call me Ishmael
I'll tell you wants wrong...
This, according to what arab leader say they want, is A-OK
But this, oh no, destroy it!
This, according to what arab leader say they want, is A-OK
But this, oh no, destroy it!
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
A completely neutral stance is impossible.
I am strongly pro Freedom and Democracy. When thinking of being a homosexual female left-wing journalist, that wants to write down the government sucks, my stance tends to get biased in favour of Israel.
When regarding the the whole mess, while studying historical facts, I can only conclude both sides made horrible mistakes. The big difference is that Israel has varied horrifying mistakes with feasable peace proposals, whereas Arabs/Palestinians have turnt those down.
If I would be forced to make a choice between the two, history teaches me to pick the Israelis.
I am strongly pro Freedom and Democracy. When thinking of being a homosexual female left-wing journalist, that wants to write down the government sucks, my stance tends to get biased in favour of Israel.
When regarding the the whole mess, while studying historical facts, I can only conclude both sides made horrible mistakes. The big difference is that Israel has varied horrifying mistakes with feasable peace proposals, whereas Arabs/Palestinians have turnt those down.
If I would be forced to make a choice between the two, history teaches me to pick the Israelis.
Stapel
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Truronian said:
Nothing is wrong with it, but the Palestinians refused those borders! It is my opinion that the 1967 post-war refusal of the Palestinians is the biggest mistake in the whole process. The Israelis reacted stupidly: by settling the refused land. Any reasonable Israelis knows that the 1967 borders are the right borders. Unfortunately, dismantling the settlements is a delicate issue. Sharon started the operation in Gaza and I think it will be continued in the Westbank.
blackheart
unenlightened
I have an idea: have a neutral party... let's say the Ibo tribes of Nigeria draw out a map of what should be fair and have the Israelis and Palestinians stick by it. If they don't agree, shoot em. 
But really, this process has been going on for decades with no advance, it's time to start playing harder.
But really, this process has been going on for decades with no advance, it's time to start playing harder.
Tank_Guy#3
Lion of Lehistan
I support Israel. They are an ally, thus I support them.
Look at the way I play Civ and RTW: I never attack an ally, they always attack me first, usually for having done nothing to be the antagonist. I also seek alliances with all AI nations, and when they go to war with one another and I get asked to choose I do, but then I try to remake the alliance with the one I chose not to side with.
Look at the way I play Civ and RTW: I never attack an ally, they always attack me first, usually for having done nothing to be the antagonist. I also seek alliances with all AI nations, and when they go to war with one another and I get asked to choose I do, but then I try to remake the alliance with the one I chose not to side with.
Zardnaar
Deity
I'm pro Israel although I don't believe they're 100% right and I think the Palestinians do have some legitimate concerns. I also think the creation of Israel was stupid but since its 60 odd years later support its right to exist.
Jews were safe in the middle east for years due to persecution in Europe. The creation of Israel destroyed a centuries relationship between Jews and Muslims.
Jews were safe in the middle east for years due to persecution in Europe. The creation of Israel destroyed a centuries relationship between Jews and Muslims.
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Zardnaar said:
The creation of the state Israel had quite some ugly things to it, but it's most certainly not stupid.
In 1940, (so before the WWII survivors fled to the region), a third of the British Mandate Palestine (todays Israel, Gaza, Westbank and Jordan) was Jewish. These people have fought quite a horrifying guerilla war against the British during their struggle for independence.
The 1947 UN Partition Plan, which divided the British Palestinian Mandate into two states, was inevitable. Not the best solution, but certainly inevitable.
Scuffer
Scuffer says...
Pro both, but as both sides have singularly failed to live together in peace, I don't have a great deal of hope.
boarder
King
Hey im all for Israel to have a state and live in peace.I fully support that.
Yet I am more pro Palestine due to Israeli's treatment of them over the last 50 years.
Free Palestine!!!!!
Yet I am more pro Palestine due to Israeli's treatment of them over the last 50 years.
Free Palestine!!!!!
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Slavic Sioux said:
What was wrong with this 1947 plan, is that Egypt, Syria and Jordan didn't like it (theor biggest problem was Israel having more than 0 sqare meters) and decided to declare war on Israel (1948). Unfortunately for them, the Israelis were on the winning side and conquered more land. In 1949, peace was established. Gaza and Sinai came under Egyptian control, West-Bank under Jordanian control. These 1949 borders were stable until 1967 and are what most people agree on to be the defenite Israeli borders.
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