Procylon's Call to Power Project

Well, did two quick governments as an example of what I would like to do/see.

Spoiler :
Monarchy
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Theocracy
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They are 192x292 images, which is what the original policy DDS ones are. The theocracy one needs a bit better cleaning up on the edges thanks to sloppy eraserwork on my part.

I will do my best to find good images for the rest of the policies.

For republic, I would love a painting of a roman senator
For democracy, I want some painting in a greek forum
Fascism will probably be an army marching.

i like :)

i will pop them into the game quickly to check out the size and that they will display correctly
 
Well, did two quick governments as an example of what I would like to do/see.

Monarchy
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Theocracy
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They are 192x292 images, which is what the original policy DDS ones are. The theocracy one needs a bit better cleaning up on the edges thanks to sloppy eraserwork on my part.

I will do my best to find good images for the rest of the policies.

For republic, I would love a painting of a roman senator
For democracy, I want some painting in a greek forum
Fascism will probably be an army marching.

A few notes on actual policy names:
Autocracy and Totalitarianism are redundant. Oligarchy should replace one.

Rename No State Religion to Antireligion

I have to disagree with you there. Totalitarianism could be rule by a dictatorial party while an autocracy is more like Tsarist Russia. Plus totalitarianism is a distinctly modern phenomenon, while autocrats have been around for most of human history.

edit: nice pic for monarchy. That is napoleon, right?
 
ok this is what those pics look like in game to give you some idea, the pic size is right, just needs a bit of work to take into account for the hidden bit at the top and the huge adopt button
 

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Its official. I am stupid. I can't get my .dds reskins in the game no matter what I do. I am so dumb. I will post the files on here if you want to try to get the artwork into the game to see what it looks like. Here are some instructions.
HTML:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=392773
Sorry that I'm too stupid to get it in game.
 

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Most of these new social pages gfx are looking good. Republic and Democracy look too similar to me though. Since Democracy can't be used until the Renaissance era I think The National Assembly of the French or House of Representatives of the USA would be a better pic.
 
MasterJ, Gilgamesh, and Poukai, glad to see you got your problems fixed. :)

I think with these picture choices, it is really really really important to have a consistent style for all of them. That probably means they should all either be paintings/drawings OR photos. Not both. It also means they should all be taken through the Photoshop ringer.

I tend to agree. I am sure that we will have a unified art style eventually, especially as more people chip in to create it. :)

I know it wasn't part of CTP but have you ever considered adding a prehistoric age like a few other mods have done? It would be so epic to go from the prehistoric age all the way to the future ages.

I get this question alot lately. The answer is yes, but it is a low priority. Also, I kind of want the default start era to remain ancient, with the ability to choose a prehistoric start if you want. I will have to figure something out for that.

I see. What I was going for here was showing the forward progression of the colonies into a new independent government. I guess I missed the mark . And my first thoughts shifted to the civil rights movement when I saw Liberalism, but I didn't know if that was the look you wanted. I am glad it is.

Its fine, I just had more general thoughts in mind for them. :) The Gov ideologies have to fit with most of the governments. Liberalism for instance won't be available under Fascism or Communism but will be available under monarchy and theocracy(and the rest).

there, but I know that many people would despise seeing them, myself included. Lol, it seems like some parts of this mod are getting into sensitive topics; this will probably help to make things seem more realistic.

Everything else I could think of was pretty controversial as well. I'll keep looking though. Maybe I will stumble upon something.

I am not against controversial imagery, but if there are better alternatives it would be counterproductive. If I make a WW2 scenario, you can bet Stalin, Hitler, and Mao are getting their faces in there. But most things allow for enough generality so that those kinds of things likely won't be necessary.

the CtD issue seems I can't get past the area around turn 170, I am guessing it is AI related. If I reopen the game I may get to turn 178 or 172 but somewhere in the turns b/t 169 and 179 something is happening to cause a CtD. I am not sure but I think it has something to do with conquering a City-State or war with City-State, but the CtD has occurred only on the turn when I received a Great Artist, maybe a correlation.

What version?

Weird that it happens in a range of turns rather than 1 single turn. Do you have random seed enabled?

They are 192x292 images, which is what the original policy DDS ones are. The theocracy one needs a bit better cleaning up on the edges thanks to sloppy eraserwork on my part.

I will do my best to find good images for the rest of the policies.

For republic, I would love a painting of a roman senator
For democracy, I want some painting in a greek forum
Fascism will probably be an army marching.

I like those 2 images and the ideas for the other 3.

A few notes on actual policy names:
Autocracy and Totalitarianism are redundant. Oligarchy should replace one.

Autocracy = Absolute power in 1 person.
Totalitarianism = Absolute control over every individual.

Saying they are redundant would be kind of like saying Fascism and Communism are redundant. Each has a specific thematic function.

If I added Oligarchy, then Aristocracy could be considered redundant as well as perhaps Plutocracy.

Also, having Oligarchy would mean too many soft dictatorship type systems. Autocracy and Totalitarianism are supposed to be the hard dictatorship systems.

Rename No State Religion to Antireligion

I kind of agree that we need some anti-religion policy types, but I am not sure that it goes in the religion box. We have No State Religion and Atheism. Both do kind of need to be open enough to allow for, lets say, peaceful coexistence with religion.

How about we replace "Organized" under the Religious ideologies with "Anti-Religion"? Since generally we can assume if you chose a religion of no state religion then you are already organized, then we can make room for the anti-religion crowd. So Soviet Russia would choose No-State, Atheism, and Anti-Religion which would essentially lock out the rest of the religion style policies.

Well the final piece of the multiple social panel problem has been solved, the pipes, i should hopefully therefore be sending a copy to D tomorrow evening so that it can be implemented into the mod, the policies created, more pictures added and reporting any small bugs that might crop up.

Picture of the pipe fix attached

Awesome! When you give me the pages mod I will publish the latest techs/buildings I have added and then begin work on the social pages. Lets hope I have many bursts of energy, cause this is going to be a lot of work. :p
 
This is the new Religious Ideologies list, with Organized Replaced by Anti-Religion:

Religious Ideologies
1 Fundamentalism
2 Secularism
3 Atheism
4 Piety
5 Inquisition
6 Tolerance
7 Anti-Religion
8 Evangelical
9 Shamanism
10 Occult



Most of these new social pages gfx are looking good. Republic and Democracy look too similar to me though. Since Democracy can't be used until the Renaissance era I think The National Assembly of the French or House of Representatives of the USA would be a better pic.

I agree, though I think the Democracy pic should be some kind of amphitheater style, as that is what I picture when I think of Greek democracy. And then the Roman Senate could stay the same.

The style is great though. :)
 
Most of these new social pages gfx are looking good. Republic and Democracy look too similar to me though. Since Democracy can't be used until the Renaissance era I think The National Assembly of the French or House of Representatives of the USA would be a better pic.

I sort of assumed democracy would be available much earlier than renaissance to represent the proto-democracies of Athens and the like.
 
I agree, though I think the Democracy pic should be some kind of amphitheater style, as that is what I picture when I think of Greek democracy. And then the Roman Senate could stay the same.

The style is great though. :)

If you can find me a picture in the style you are looking for, I will do what I can do make it work. I used Raphael's School of Athens, one of the most famous paintings on earth, because I assumed at the very least people would assume they were Greeks in the picture.
 
I sort of assumed democracy would be available much earlier than renaissance to represent the proto-democracies of Athens and the like.

Well, there are a few reasons for this.

The Athenian Democracy was only available to males who had served in the military, thus maybe 15% of the population.

By the time Greece became a big important empire, or basically stopped being city states, they had a king. Phillip and Alexander being the notables. Of course they still had some Democracy under Phillip and Alexander, but the last of it ended after Alexander died.

And I needed to fill a long gap between classical and industrialism.

So it was a combination of the actual historical aspects of it and a gameplay decision. Democracy's soul came from Greece, but it wasn't quite a reality until the Enlightenment.

If you can find me a picture in the style you are looking for, I will do what I can do make it work. I used Raphael's School of Athens, one of the most famous paintings on earth, because I assumed at the very least people would assume they were Greeks in the picture.

I had never seen the painting, but it does seem to fit with Greece. Unfortunately I am pretty much useless with art, so I am going to have to leave the acquisition of a better picture to you guys. I don't mind if your current proposal is used anyway. If we find a more fitting picture great, if not, it works. :)
 
Awesome! When you give me the pages mod I will publish the latest techs/buildings I have added and then begin work on the social pages. Lets hope I have many bursts of energy, cause this is going to be a lot of work. :p

They will have to be some seriously big bursts, with 5 policies per branch that's like 250 policies in total :crazyeye:
 
They will have to be some seriously big bursts, with 5 policies per branch that's like 250 policies in total :crazyeye:

Indeed. lol

I will do the first 100(Gov Systems/Ideologies), and then I will finish up the tech tree. Once I have these completed and balance is generally good, I will get V9 on the modhub. Then I have to figure out how I want to implement religions.
 
I really like the new pics you've made Sneaks. I like the consistency in the work, as well as the common golden backlights. The only problem now is that the other pieces don't fit in, so you may have to restructure everything. Is it wrong that I am happy at this prospect?

When you are all finished, could you briefly say how you did this art? What program, are the originals from stock pictures/paintings, any tips, etc? I really would like to know how to do graphic work on a computer, both for personal knowledge and for the opportunity to see some of my work in a mod. And if you share, you won't be doing it by yourself :D.
 
Then I have to figure out how I want to implement religions.

Captain Blinky and lemmy are working on a religion mod that looks extremely promising. The haven't been actively posting as of late, but the general belief is that they are busy working on it. I think they are doing all they can without the dll, and then when that is released, they will present their mod. A system based around that would be pretty cool.
 
Captain Blinky and lemmy are working on a religion mod that looks extremely promising. The haven't been actively posting as of late, but the general belief is that they are busy working on it. I think they are doing all they can without the dll, and then when that is released, they will present their mod. A system based around that would be pretty cool.

I think they did all they can, and finally gave up from frustration when they couldn't do what they needed. And then went on to other non-Civ 5 related projects until the dll is released.

I am not sure how much I want to take their system into account. If I do end up going their route, at least more than using the piety points, then I may actually end up dropping the religion policies anyway. So when I do make the religion policies, I will do so without factoring DUCKS in I think.

Thought you'd like to know Decimatus, the invisible tech tree was caused by having v8 of your CtP mod in my mod folder, deleted it and it works perfectly now.

The ghost of CtP Project past strikes again. :p Good to hear that it is fixed. :) I am going to have to put some instructions on the OP about deleting all versions of CtP before installing the latest version.
 
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