Proposed changes to the Code of Laws (CoL)

[Cyc]

This poll is for all citizens to vote in. If the results of this poll support the changes, the two amendments below will be added to their perspective laws. If accepted these two amendments will help define the Laws they will be attached to. They are not new Laws. Please vote YES, NO, or ABSTAIN. This poll will stay open until quorum is reached.

The amendments are for Laws CoL C.1.g, which states that the President organizes worker activities, and CoL D.1.e, which states that a Governor organizes tile development in his Province. The are listed below.

CoL C.1.g.1 Exception: When a Province produces a worker, that worker can be earmarked 
by the Governor to be used for any one improvement in that Province. The specified 
improvement must be completed before that worker is released to the DP's authority. 
This worker's action is not bound by the Priority Lists.

CoL C.1.g.2 Exception: Improvements specified in the Provincial Priority List must be 
completed before any new tile improvement is begun in that province. New Provincial 
Priority Lists would not supersede the old one, but follow naturally. If a work 
action was in progress, the new List would take effect after the current work action is finished.

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COL D.1.e.1 A governor may organize the Provincial Priority List for his province.

COL D.1.e.1.a Provincial Priority Lists are set by the Governors and must be posted 
in their turn chat instructions to be valid.

COL D.1.e.1.b Provincial Priority Lists may include 3 specific improvements.

Relevant discussion can be found in the Term 7 - Senate of Fanatika. , New CoL Proposals, and Term 6 - The Senate Forum.

Run time: Minimum 48 hours, maximum of 48 hours + Quorum participation.
Quorum: 16 participants
Passage requires a supermajority of 2:1 in favor of the new sections.

 

[Shaitan]

Per COL D-3-a (Legislative Vote Mechanics) and COS F (Forum Poll Procedures), the following are submitted as they are mandatory for this poll to be binding. (@Cyc - don't want hold-ups due to technicalities here. )

Run time: Minimum 48 hours, maximum of 48 hours + Quorum participation.
Quorum: 16 participants
Passage requires a supermajority of 2:1 in favor of the new sections.

 

[eyrei]

This amendment will needlessly complicate the game, and make it more likely that DPs will be prosecuted because these changes are for the Code of Laws.

 

[FortyJ]

This may just be semantics, but shouldn't CoL C.1.g.1 read "...released to Presidential authority"?

After all, the DP is not vested with any specific authority other than to play the game in the chat and decide when to end the chat. Then again, if there are no specific instructions for workers, then the DP could assume responsibility for them. Perhaps, we should consider a combination of the two... "Presidential/DP authority"....

 

[Cyc]

@ 40J. In regards to your statement, I wrote these amendments to reflect both your ideas and Shaitan's ideas from the thread in the Citizen's subforum. There you basically suggested the same thing. But if the President is not playing the game in the DP position, then technically when the worker would get released, the non-President DP would have no authority. If we put both the President and the DP as having authority, as in your President/DP suggestion, then if the President were not playing the game but was in attendance, then conflicts could arise needlessly. The way its stated, as just the DP (person playing the game live) having control, we've not only made the amendments easier to understand, but thwarted possible future conflicts, as stated above.

 

[Shaitan]

It is a bit of semantics but works either way. The DP is the president for all intents and purposes, legal or otherwise, while playing the game.

 

[Cyc]

Thanks Shaitan for the Pollster Backup. I have added the quorum statements to the poll.

 

[Goonie]

I vote yes, as this solidifies the Governors position and allows them to do their job effectively.

 

[Noldodan]

ack... supermajority being slowly lost...

 

[GenMarshall]

I voted for yes.

I agree with Cyc. This Proposal can infact remove the headache of the the two current laws that are conflicting with one another.

 

[ravensfire]

I also voted no. This proposal seems needlessly complicated, and does not resolve the core problem. It does attempt to resolve the symptoms of that problem.

 

[Octavian X]

I voted YES on this proposal.

eyrei does have some a valid point - this would add some complexity. However, at the last TC, I had impleamented a simple system based on these proposals. It seems to have worked for the turn played...

 

[Goonie]

Congrats CYC

This is now LAW!

 

[Noldodan]

YAY!

 

[Shaitan]

This is not law yet. It must remain open for a minimum of 48 hours.

 

[Noldodan]

Shucks. Well, we'll just have to see how it turns out then...

 

[Goonie]

Oops! Its always good to have Shaitan around!

 

[eyrei]

Am I correct in assuming that this measure fails due to a vote of 13-7 where a vote of 2:1 was needed in favor for it to pass?

 

[Octavian X]

nope, eyrei. An offical poll may be passed in 24 hours if there is a 2:1 supermajority, with1/3 the active census voting.

Passed the 24 hour line, polls may pass with plurality + 1/2 active census voting.

 

[eyrei]

Originally posted by Octavian X
nope, eyrei. An offical poll may be passed in 24 hours if there is a 2:1 supermajority, with1/3 the active census voting.

Passed the 24 hour line, polls may pass with plurality + 1/2 active census voting.

WHAT?!!!

I really hope this is not so. So, if you don't vote in a poll fast enough, even though you vote before the poll closes, your vote does not count?