Prove God Exists - Act Three

[Perfection]

Well here come installment three of the saga of prooving god's existance

So to continue with the the debate I think I'll repost Mr. Sibling's Guidelines:

PROVE GOD EXISTS!

It is time for religious posters to make the point!

I want no backing out,
I want no twisting it onto another topic,
I want no lame attacks on science or Evolution,
I want your honest and direct answer,
I make no more attacks,
I make no more insults,
Just tell me straight and true…

Please provide me with the solid proof of god and his claims of creating this earth?

Why should we all bow down to this deity?

To any who post definitive proof (as determined by us, of course) both Curt and I will gladly drink a nice tall glass of "shut up".

Just some hints,
Personal evidence is counted as anecdotal, make sure it's not the backbone of your claim.
Remember emotional arguements aren't proof. Just because you want god to exist doesn't mean you can.

 

[newfangle]

Reason and faith mix like oil and water Perfection. This won't go further than the last one.

One that note, I wholeheartedly look forward to more posts from my favourite Babylonian!

 

[ainwood]

If there were a God, I'm sure He wouldn't make us poor mods endure another installment of this.

 

[MSTK]

If there was no God, who pops up the next tissue?

 

[newfangle]

Snot gremlins.

 

[Perfection]

If there was no God, who pops up the next tissue?

Umm, tissues are folded in such a way that when someone pulls out a tissue, a new one comes up (until you run out), the previous tissue user pulls it out!

 

[MSTK]

Snot gremlins.

WTH? I've opened my tissue box many times and have seen no sign of these "snot gremlins". Therefore, some supernatural force must exist -- ergo, God.

EDIT: heh...same time post!

 

[ainwood]

If they keep spamming off-topic stuff, then I can close it and not have to worry about it again.

 

[stormbind]

There has already been a victory for believers. The mere existence of this 3rd thread demonstrates that what Jesus said was both wise and true...

"It's a waste of time telling you because you refuse to listen"

 

[Perfection]

There has already been a victory for believers. The mere existence of this 3rd thread demonstrates that what Jesus said was both wise and true...

Umm, can you show me that victory, and remember me and Curt are the final decision makers of victory, you haven't lost yet, only because the thread still exists and you get indefinate time to play!

"It's a waste of time telling you because you refuse to listen"

I don't refuse to listen I may decline to agree, but I never refuse to listen (Well, I refuse to listen to Boy bands, but that's different)

 

[ainwood]

Umm, can you show me that victory, and remember me and Curt are the final decision makers of victory, you haven't lost yet, only because the thread still exists and you get indefinate time to play!

You are the one that decides, yet your opinion on the matter is cast in stone! Doesn't seem like this is terribly objective to me!

 

[Perfection]

You are the one that decides, yet your opinion on the matter is cast in stone! Doesn't seem like this is terribly objective to me!

True, but perhaps they have a chisel!

Edit: In fact, we are Perfect for the job! If they can convince us then the've probobly got a very very strong arguement!

 

[Archer 007]

If there were a God, I'm sure He wouldn't make us poor mods endure another installment of this.

Maybe he doesnt like you.

 

[King Alexander]

Ok, I'll ask one more time to the believers: WHEN did your god started to exist(I clarify: the christian god). Maybe when this "new religion" was found by someone(probably a wise man like Ghandi, but Ghandi didn't ever claimed that he was the son of god) claimed to be the "messiah"?

EDIT: If god pre-existed WHAT made him send his son at that time and NOT before? Maybe he was ignorant for the past generations?

 

[stormbind]

King Alexander, How about... before time existed

How do you know that God didn't create the linear effect you know as time? Hypothetically speaking... if God didn't create it, who did?

 

[kulade]

Ok, I'll ask one more time to the believers: WHEN did your god started to exist(I clarify: the christian god). Maybe when this "new religion" was found by someone(probably a wise man like Ghandi, but Ghandi didn't ever claimed that he was the son of god) claimed to be the "messiah"?

What was the first thing? a cell? a rock? what created that? then what created that? God is not limited to our understanding and is believed to be an eleven dimensional being, not bound by time. Evolution, natural selection and all the other ideas need a base on what created them.
We know that to our understanding something can not create it self, yet we know that something exists, so something did create it self, right, at least that how it seems. A limitless God beyond our comprihinsion was not created. If a rock inventes it self, that is something i want to see, but a unmeasurable God, not bound by time is.. well... not bound by time, there for he had not bigining and will have no end. He is the alpha and omega. There, hope your happy.

PS: Your question wasn't well thought out, at all. How can you critize us for a question you can't answer with your theories.

 

[kulade]

EDIT: If god pre-existed WHAT made him send his son at that time and NOT before? Maybe he was ignorant for the past generations?

As a Christian i can only say this: God sent Jesus at the perfect time at the perfect place that could in change, glorify him the most. But since you dont believe in a god, there is no way of convincing you with this here.

Please, im getting sick of these threads, stop posting Oh and evolution is supposed to be on the recieving end of this thread.

 

[King Alexander]

King Alexander, How about... before time existed

How do you know that God didn't create the linear effect you know as time? Hypothetically speaking... if God didn't create it, who did?

That's not an answer(if God didn't create it, who did?). You've been TOLD that god created it, and you believed it beacuse you needed/wanted to. You have not seen it, neither you can prove it.

With your LOGIC, I'll ask: whose's son is god then?

 

[stormbind]

That's not an answer(if God didn't create it, who did?). You've been TOLD that god created it, and you believed it beacuse you needed/wanted to. You have not seen it, neither you can prove it.

Have you seen it? Seems a silly to give a test if you haven't the answers with which to grade a response!

With your LOGIC, I'll ask: whose's son is god then?

If God exists outside time, then he has been created & he has not yet been created! He is his own son. As far as I can tell, this is what happens when you have no time.

So, answer me this, who or what created the effect of time?

 

[kulade]

That's not an answer(if God didn't create it, who did?). You've been TOLD that god created it, and you believed it beacuse you needed/wanted to. You have not seen it, neither you can prove it.

With your LOGIC, I'll ask: whose's son is god then?

Alexander, if God didn't make everything than what/who/how was it made?