provincial border discussion

[disorganizer]

I would like to bring up an issue:
As future citizen of Kashmir i think its a shame this province is so small and backwards. I would propose to put together Kashmir with Chondote, as this would only increase Kashmir on paper, but only bring 1 more city in controll of the governor.
I would also like to put a small strip of land between greece and Asphinxia, which now belongs to Kashmir, to Asphinxia.
Proposal as seen below.
Discussion wanted.

 

[Cyc]

Works for me, Dis!

 

[Eklektikos]

I would certainly have no problem with this.

 

[donsig]

I support this proposal.

 

[chiefpaco]

Brilliant proposal, disorganizer. I am behind you 100%

 

[Justus II]

I support it as well. It makes sense for both provinces.

 

[disorganizer]

i noticed our borders are a kind of "scattered around". province 7 for example does not fit with province 9 on a combined map. to start a discussion, here is a combined map of all provinces.
i did not implement the kashmir+chondote change (6+10 combined) yet in it.
we should maybe "straighten" the borders a bit. And excluding inland sea from the borderline is not a good idea for example.

i will eventually work up a proposal for changed borders. but we could start discussion now.

 

[disorganizer]

my first proposal for all borders is:

1) water-squares:
expand the borders to inland seas, bays. also take more ocean-squares in the borders.
2) asphinxia(4):
* expand sw to greek borderline
* expand east till hills in kashmir. this mountain range will be the kashmir/asphinxia border
* expand to the middle of the istar/new cormyr/asphinxia inland sea
* expand in the china-bay to line up the water-border to china and ameri
* take away a small patch from the sw to give it to new-cormyr
3) new-cormyr(5):
* expand a bit into the ocean for realistic borderline
* take a small patch south of the inland sea away from asphinxia
4) kashmir (6):
* join provinces 6+10 to form a new kashmir province
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
5) istar and normandy (1+2):
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
6) ameri (3):
* expand to the middle of the china bay
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
7) province 8 (8):
* align province east border with new-cormyr border
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
8) province 9 (9):
* a small long patch of land taken away to give it to 8
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
* still to discuss: east borderline+border with 7
9) province 7 (7):
* expand borderlines into the water area a bit
* still to discuss: south borderline+border with 9

 

[disorganizer]

should we also discuss province borders in the chinese area?
they directly border asphinxia but we have no planned province there.

 

[Cyc]

Beautiful work, Dis. This is what we've needed for a long time. The Complete Phoenatica Atlas. Thank you. Maybe you could PM me the link and I could post this in the Provincial Maps thread.

 

[disorganizer]

now a new map of this proposal for discussion or/and poll:

or as high-res big-version (400kb):
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/phoenatica-1385AD.jpg

 

[disorganizer]

the poll is here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25533