provoke a war?

jdw171984

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As in all wars I lose a lot of good relations if I declare war on another civ. Anyone know any way of provoking an attack? Ive done things like demanding ransoms every turn for bout 20 years to just sending a spy over, a lil later on in the game, and just stealing plans/destroying production over and over till they bust me. Anyone got some other advice?
 
I agree. it can be hard. Certain AI will never attack you even if you provoke them. The AI tends to take into account power ratings when deciding to attack so maybe you could keep an obsolete army with the cash to upgrade the instant you're attacked.
Or you could try paying someone else to attack them instead, stirring things up between AIs is always good and as far as I know you only get a -1 modifier for bringing in a war ally.
 
To be honest, i have never been able to provoke any AI, no matter how weak or strong into attacking me. I could have demanded everything they have, and have my spies caught every time, and they still wont declare war.
 
Try playing a harder setting ?
 
jdw171984 said:
As in all wars I lose a lot of good relations if I declare war on another civ. Anyone know any way of provoking an attack? Ive done things like demanding ransoms every turn for bout 20 years to just sending a spy over, a lil later on in the game, and just stealing plans/destroying production over and over till they bust me. Anyone got some other advice?

Doing those things also give you negative penalties. I don't think there's any way to get into a war and still be friends afterwards. If you're the same religion and you have their favorite civic though, those positive modifiers will overwhelm the "You declared war on us!" penalty.
 
As long you don't raze their cities and bring allies in, you usually be friends afterwards. If they have vassel you don't care for you always declare on them.
 
I hardly ever try to provoke a war. I just go to it. Last game I went to war with Isabella thrice... she would have been a very good ally, seeing she had the same religion as me. Oh well, too bad she set her cities near me, risking me to have only 3 (good) cities tops. Declared war on her 3 times... at the end, got 6 good ones, and further on, about 10 all together.

But yeah, I hate the penalty. Especially if they're the same religion as you, and they could be a good ally. Anyways, might as well just take that civ out. If you're not sure if you can defeat them, have another civ declare war on them. They'll send their troops out to defend and whatnot, and you just go in and kill them all.

I love this tactic. Stupid AI.
 
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