Questions about The BUG Mod

Tecibbar · Sep 20, 2012

Lemon Merchant said:
Is there a reason that you haven't upgraded to 3.19? There were many good fixes in that patch, and most mods require it these days...

And the newest bat shows the hidden diplomatic goodies.

The reason being I have edited my xmls so much, it's like a mod. The new patch has different xml schematics, and I am too lazy to do the work of upgrading my xml.

So now I can't use both the latest version of bat AND 3.13 compatible bug, what do you recommend I use?

Lemon Merchant · Sep 22, 2012

Tecibbar said:
The reason being I have edited my xmls so much, it's like a mod. The new patch has different xml schematics, and I am too lazy to do the work of upgrading my xml.

So now I can't use both the latest version of bat AND 3.13 compatible bug, what do you recommend I use?

Unfortunately, without 3.19, you can't use the a new version of BAT, but remember that older versions of BAT use a 3.13 compatible BUG. For BAT Games, you'll have to get along with that.

For regular games, you can use any version of BUG that works with 3.13. When you use BAT, it ignores whatever version of BUG you have installed and uses its own.

julystork · Sep 28, 2012

Is BUG only for bts? Will it work on warlords games?

bestbrian · Sep 28, 2012

julystork said:
Is BUG only for bts? Will it work on warlords games?

BUG stands for Beyondthesword Unaltered Gameplay, hence it is not compatible with Warlords. Sorry. However, there might have been something similar for Warlords; unfortunately, you'll have to dig deep into the mod forums to find it, or hope someone here remembers it.

ruff_hi · Sep 28, 2012

julystork said:
Is BUG only for bts? Will it work on warlords games?

I have an unaltered game mod for Vanilla and Warlords - look in the download section for stuff that I have uploaded. It is a prequel to BUG.

Mukersman · Oct 3, 2012

Is it possible to install BUG on a mac or pc if I'm playing the steam version? Are the folders just in a different location?

Lemon Merchant · Oct 7, 2012

Mukersman said:
Is it possible to install BUG on a mac or pc if I'm playing the steam version? Are the folders just in a different location?

The answer should be yes, but I don't use Steam, so I can't be 100% certain. Sorry.

Yudishtira · Dec 7, 2012

Whenever I select a unit to be built (from the main screen), it gets put in as a repeat build. How do I fix this since it's quite a pain?

Lemon Merchant · Dec 9, 2012

Yudishtira said:
Whenever I select a unit to be built (from the main screen), it gets put in as a repeat build. How do I fix this since it's quite a pain?

Go into BUG Options (CTRL-ALT-O) and find the option "Build units forever" or something like that, and turn it off. The game will then only build one unit and stop, like it normally does.

Pengu · Dec 10, 2012

Why is it that I just can't get BUG to work properly?
I just used the installer and something always goes wrong.
Most of the things are there but some things just isn't there on the interface.
Like the fists by the civs, to see when they are plotting or the faces next to it.
I also don't see the all the resources connected though the empire in the city screen.
And other annoying things. What am I doing wrong or what settings are wrong?

I installed civ 4 BTS on my d drive in a custom folder but that should affect BUG.
I just don't get it...

For some reason the old BUFFY mod shows everything...

gorf37 · Dec 29, 2012

Hi All!

I've just loaded BTS onto my new computer, and am having trouble getting BUG to work. When the game loads, the map and units are visible, but nothing else. The UI has disappeared, and no combination of command alt shift and I can bring it back.

OS Version: OSX 10.8.2
BTS version: 3.19
BUG/BAT version: 4.4
Installation source: Civilization IV Gold Edition & BTS DVDs, http://sourceforge.net/projects/civ4bug/
Installation method: singleplayer (CustomAssets)
Merged mods: Nope

Anything non-standard about your setup
I've got the game installed in a folder labelled "Civilization IV Gold" installed in my Documents folder. As soon as I run BTS, another folder labelled "Civilization IV Beyond the Sword" is automatically created, also in the Documents folder. I've tried:

- Creating CustomAssets and BUG Mod folders in the Beyond the Sword sub-folder of the Civilization IV Gold folder. This does not create any effect in-game.

- Creating a BUG Mod folder in the automatically created "Civilization IV Beyond the Sword" folder, and replacing the contents of the CustomAssets folder, which in this case is automatically generated. This causes the interface to disappear.

- Installed BUG as a Mod, which also resulted in the disappearance of the UI.

Thanks for reading, any help is appreciated.

AlanH · Dec 29, 2012

The disappearing UI is normally a symptom that the Python scripts are not initialising correctly. You could turn on Logging in your Documents/Beyond the Sword/civilizationIV.ini file. Launch BtS and look at Documents/Beyond the Sword/Logs/PythonErr.log. If there are Python problems they will be listed there. Maybe someone here will be able to interpret them.

gorf37 · Dec 29, 2012

Thanks Alan for the prompt reply! I've followed your instructions:

Warning, these are lengthly.
So I turned on logging in my CivilizationIV.ini file, and these are the result:

I also noticed that for some reason the game opens up to a blank "tech advisor" screen when starting. Probably just a byproduct of the errors, but in any case.

Spoiler :

ruff_hi · Dec 29, 2012

@gorf - do you have any unusual letters in your windows user name? This often causes BUG's python to go heywire. Check our wiki for a solution to that issue (disappearing interface).

AlanH · Dec 29, 2012

I'm not an expert, so I hope someone else will come along and look at the logs. I

FWIW, it looks to me as if the mod is not installed correctly (it can't find all its modules), or you are trying to run it without adequate user permissions (it hasn't been able to write its own ini file).

gorf37 · Dec 29, 2012

@ruff - I do have an '&' in there... Would that qualify as unusual? I'm running a Mac rather than Windows, however.

@AlanH - Hrm, the user permission issue seems a likely candidate, as I just opened up this computer for the first time yesterday... Okay so that was at least a step forward. The Mods folder was read-only, so the BUG.ini file couldn't be created. Now I've fixed that, and the problem with the UI persists, but the .ini is at least created. Logs below:

Spoiler :

AlanH · Dec 29, 2012

Hang on! Is this a Mac? You may need to check out the Mac forum notes on how to run BUG on a Mac!

gorf37 · Dec 29, 2012

Yes this is indeed on a mac. I have not read the thread which you linked, and will do that immediately.

I installed per your post here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=8510981&postcount=41

Thanks for helping and for bearing with me..

couldn't fit the logs in one post..

Spoiler :

Okay I have now made the change you described in the "Can I use the BUG mod? YES!" thread:

You have to edit the Python file:

/Applications/Civilization IV/Beyond the Sword/Mods/BUG Mod/Assets/Python/BUG/BugUtil.py

and delete line 699. If you don't have a text editor with line numbers, just search for, and delete, the line:

newFunc.__name__ = function.__name__

AND IT WORKS!!! PythonErr.log is now empty, which must be a good thing. Thank you AlanH!

AlanH · Dec 29, 2012

Sorry I missed your reference to Mac OS X in your original post, but pleased to see it all worked out for you.

berenger · Jan 19, 2013

Hello there

The website seems not working anymore for dowmnload (at least today)
Any idea where I could download it ?

Thanks

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