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[Turner]

Originally posted by Grille
Welcome to CFC, Sentinel
in addition to Turner's post:
Strategic resources never disappear if there's no road (respectively city) on that tile. (Maybe you would not want to connect your only source of a resource before you really need it, or even disconnect/pillage roads if you e.g. notice a Iron Works city site but can't start IW right away).
Rubber and horses a "static", they will never disappear (as Turner said, check editor for depletion odds of the rest in the editor).

Correction: If a resource is attached but the road cut, the resource is still eligible for depletion. Have to look this up, but I'm pretty sure it's still that way.

 

[s_e_n_t_i_n_e_l]

Originally posted by Grille


I don't think that there's some measurement of the amount of resource consumption.
"Connection" is the pre-context, then it's just the random number generator (luck). Note that once a resource disappears, a new one of the same type re-appears elsewhere (sometimes even on the same tile). Working the tile doesn't matter.

I'll admit to doubts about the re-appearence, as well ... based on the fact that I only see resources appear once in three or four games, and see them disappear 4-5 times a game. I'll admit that I don't count AI resources all the time, or even go through them tile-by-tile when one of mine disappears ... but I'm fairly certain that not _all_ of the disappearing resources are replaced ... I once counted 12 iron tiles in an 8-civ game, and when one of mine disappeared, I could then only see 11 (in the world, for both numbers), so I suspect the forced replacement is only if the number of that resource drops below a threshold, probably the number of civs for everything but uranium, where the minimum availability is something like one for every two civs.

I'll see if I can test this out, but I've never used the editor, so it'll take me a bit.

 

[Turner]

s_e_n_t_i_n_e_l: They dont' just disappear. . . they do reappear somewhere else. Make sure you have an updated WM when checking, otherwise it won't be updated.

I did find the thread I was looking for. I'm sure there's more information out there, but this thread seemed pretty good. This thread goes into resource depletion, as well as some other resource information.

 

[Grille]

Turner:
You mean road on resource tile, but no connection to trade network?
Then it could deplete AFAIK.
Sentinel:
IIRC, Cracker recently posted a test scenario. I'll try to dig up a link (hope the search function has not depleted... ) <edit: I was looking exactly for the thread Turner linked to/posted above >
Number of resource tiles of one kind are indeed dependent on number of civs (large map w/ 4 opponents has way less iron than w/ 11 opponents, for example - you can set that in the editor, too). I'm not sure if re-appearance will be calculated on the actual number of civs in a game (that would explain a drop in total number if civs get wiped out).

 

[Turner]

Grille: It's in the thread that I linked too. That's the major reason why I chose that thread.

But AFAIK, any road will do it it.

 

[Grille]

Yes, yes: I meant that thread (see edit)

 

[Turner]

Originally posted by Grille
I'm not sure if re-appearance will be calculated on the actual number of civs in a game (that would explain a drop in total number if civs get wiped out).

Good point. . . .this may be why.

To be honest, I don't fool with this much. . . keeping track of resources that is. If I loose one, well, I just go on a rightous holy war in and 'liberate' some much needed resources.

 

[s_e_n_t_i_n_e_l]

Thanks, folks

I supose I had assumed that since you can see all the spots for a resource when you get the tech (if you can see that tile, anyway), I assumed that you could always see resources you had the tech for ...

time to do more map trading, even after I've got a complete world map. I want my coal back, you dastardly french thieves!

 

[Turner]

Well, in a sense, you can. (It's the eqivilent of 'Oh, so that's what that is. . .) But if you don't have an updated map, you don't get it when a resource pops up. Kinda like having a blank spot in the map and the AI putting a city there. (Although in that situation, I do believe an embassy will update your map for you.)

 

[Grille]

Originally posted by Turner_727


Good point. . . .this may be why.

To be honest, I don't fool with this much. . . keeping track of resources that is. If I loose one, well, I just go on a rightous holy war in and 'liberate' some much needed resources.

I do that, too.

The 'good point' was just a vague guessing, since I don't keep track on total numbers of resources either. Now that I think about it, I've had often (non-modded) games with tons of iron hooked up while there were just 2 ai civs left and depletions/re-appearances happened.
So I think the starting number of civs only matters for the total number of resources (not sure if it's always severly constant, though).

edit: AFAIK you do not even need an actual map to locate resources in enemy or neutral territory (of course, you need full geographic knowledge of every land tile = no black spots, that is).
cotrol-shift-m (clear map from cities/improvements) helps to detect resources.

 

[anarres]

I thought the new patches had reduced the disappearing resources chances to almost nothing, but in one of my current PBEM games I lost my only Iron, with the next a good fight away.

It's been a while since I've seen that happen...

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

How do I load my own personalized avatar?

 

[Shabbaman]

You have to get 300 posts first, sorry!

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
How do I load my own personalized avatar?

Well, it's all listed in the Forum Rules.

But Thunderfall has included a FAQ in Site Feedback to cover the common questions like this.

And yes, you need 300 posts before you can use a Custom (personalized) Avatar.

 

[mrtn]

The link to the "UK PTW 1.27" patch links to the French (1.27F) patch. Should I use the US (1.27f) version?
And should I pm TF about that fault, or is someone else responsible for http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3patches.shtml ?

 

[anarres]

mrtn, I have a copy of it at Civ3DuelZone:

http://www.danwilliamson.net/forum/portal.asp?ContentID=21&CategoryID=5

Just click the "PTW 1.27 UK Patch" link on that page...

 

[Dianthus]

mrtn, are you sure the patch is the wrong one? That's the one I used and it worked fine. Note the trailing f is not for French, the version number ends in f. The French patch has got TWO trailing F's.

 

[Turner]

Yes, the 'f' stands for 'final'. . .

 

[Pirate]

Do obsolete wonders still produce culture?

Thanks!

 

[Dianthus]

Yes. Note though that captured wonders don't produce culture, only the wonders you build yourself.