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SuperBeaverInc. · Oct 19, 2003

Originally posted by Turner_727
I've got a Chinese Rider that made a leader. . . I called him First Rider. . . (Not original, I know ). He got promoted to Calvary, and is again elite. I'm hoping that he'll spawn another leader, so I can call him my Seventh Cavalry First Rider. . .

Can you imagine a Spearman like that? I wonder if that would fit. . . .

That has actuallly happenned to me. I had a Knight produce the GL Washington so I named him Washington. After I upgraded him to Cavalry he spawned another GL named Sherman. So I was stuck with a unit called Washington-Sherman. He actually got up to elite when I upgraded him to Light Tank(my personal mod Cavalry can upgrade) and I thought he might produce another GL.

Leha · Oct 20, 2003

Question:

I know that before declaration of war all troops must be removed from enemy's territory , otherwise you get rep hit as a ROP rape .

Now , after I declare war and enter the enemy's territory the SAME turn , will I get rep hit ?

Thanks in advance

Grille · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by leha

Now , after I declare war and enter the enemy's territory the SAME turn , will I get rep hit ?

No.

(If there's no "active deals" atm, of course).

Shabbaman · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by leha
Question:

I know that before declaration of war all troops must be removed from enemy's territory , otherwise you get rep hit as a ROP rape .

Now , after I declare war and enter the enemy's territory the SAME turn , will I get rep hit ?

Thanks in advance

To perform a ROP rape you'll need a ROP in the first place

For further insight in reputation hits, check bamspeedy's article and bookmark it.

Leha · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by Shabbaman

To perform a ROP rape you'll need a ROP in the first place

For further insight in reputation hits, check bamspeedy's article and bookmark it.

I've read on this forum many times you get rep hit when your forces are in enemy territory before declaration of war , no matter wether you have ROP or not .
Of course you can't make ROP rape , when you have no ROP

Anyway , thank you , Grille and Shabbaman for clarification

Grille · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by leha

I've read on this forum many times you get rep hit when your forces are in enemy territory before declaration of war , no matter wether you have ROP or not .
Of course you can't make ROP rape , when you have no ROP

When you declare war w/ troops in enemy territory, I *think* you can call it ROP-rape whether you have signed a ROP or not (well, I call it ROP rape at least).
Sounds silly, but if you have an active ROP but no units in enemy territory (and declare war), you can sign ROPs later.
When you have no ROP in place but declare war w/ units in enemy territory, you cannot sign a ROP anymore.

Aggie · Oct 20, 2003

@leha: you are correct that you get a rep hit when your forces are in emeny territory before declaration of war. It is comparable to a ROP rape. You even get a similar message from civs when you try to get a ROP and they deny it.

@shabbaman: Bamspeedy's article talks about attitude hits. This is not the same as rep hits. Others civs can be very happy with you but still not willing to trade 'per turn'. The latter is due to a rep hit (like ROP rape or the example leha gives).

Sphynx · Oct 20, 2003

2 Leha

If your forces are within enemy borders and you will declare war you will still be able to make a RoP with this civ. If this civ is smaller or very small (1-3 cities) they will be happy to sign RoP and you can even use RoP signing to get better trade results. Bigger civs will not like to sign RoP and you'll have to pay smth for it.

I've also got a question: Can Darvin (GW) give me 2 free Modern Age techs if I build it in Modern Age?

ShowMeTheMoney · Oct 20, 2003

(Playing CivIII v1.29f)

1. Does the AI make use of espionage missions? Like the "steal tech" ability for example? Or am I just wasting money trying to expose AI spies? If yes, does anyone know how frequently?

2. On the preferences menu, what do the "cancel orders for enemy/friendly combat unit" do exactly? I've been enabling and disabling it and I can't see any difference?

Thanks in Advance.

Padma · Oct 20, 2003

The AI definitely employs espionage. There have been several documented cases of an AI having a sudden, drastic drop in their treasury, and suddenly having a tech they *shouldn't* have.

Not to mention all the times when a spy IS exposed....

carlosMM · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by ShowMeTheMoney
(Playing CivIII v1.29f)

1. Does the AI make use of espionage missions? Like the "steal tech" ability for example? Or am I just wasting money trying to expose AI spies? If yes, does anyone know how frequently?

Yes, sometimes you will get a message they have been caught in the attempt, or that your production was asbotaged....

2. On the preferences menu, what do the "cancel orders for enemy/friendly combat unit" do exactly? I've been enabling and disabling it and I can't see any difference?

Thanks in Advance.

friendly means that your workers will run from non-enemy units, too. Annoying, imagine trying to road to an AI to enable dealing and every time your workers have almost roaded that last jungle tile an AI unit walks by and they cancel their order.....

this is when they are not covered by a defence unit only, btw.

anarres · Oct 20, 2003

I thought 'friendly' meant they would stop work/movement if they see a friendly (not-at-war) civ move in their line of sight...

carlosMM · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by anarres
I thought 'friendly' meant they would stop work/movement if they see a friendly (not-at-war) civ move in their line of sight...

AFAIK unless they are on the same tile as a military unit (which essentially covers them)

a space oddity · Oct 20, 2003

Hi all,

does anyone know how often the UN vote is being called? I seem to remember reading somewhere that it's each 10 turns, execpt for the first one which is held after 11 years.

We're trying for our first multiple victory in the SG called MB1 - double whammy.

Thanks in advance.

Dianthus · Oct 20, 2003

The UN builder gets a chance to call a vote on the turn they build the UN, then a further chance every 20 turns after that.

a space oddity · Oct 20, 2003

Wow, that really is a quick answer.

Thanks Dianthus.

AlanH · Oct 20, 2003

Originally posted by Dianthus
The UN builder gets a chance to call a vote on the turn they build the UN, then a further chance every 20 turns after that.

I thought it was every 11 turns, every time. That was certainly the way it worked out for me during my ill-fated GOTM20.

Dianthus · Oct 20, 2003

I was pretty sure about this, but from my GOTM21 notes :

1380 AD (turn 266)
Complete UN in Ephesus after rushing using great leader from Russian War.
Get a chance to do a UN vote. Pretty sure I would win, but I want Space Race.

1435 AD (turn 277)
...
UN election turned down.
...

1490 AD (turn 288)
...
UN turned down again.
...

1545 AD (turn 299)
...
Refuse UN again
...

MadScot · Oct 20, 2003

The 11 turn thing was documented and tested some time ago.

It is a bizarre number to choose; maybe they meant to be 10 but the turn counter starts at zero not one?

meltone1 · Oct 21, 2003

what effect does communism have on espionage? How exactly is espionage improved with this type of govt?

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