Quick Answers / 'Newbie' Questions

[walletta]

1) Flip Calc

2)Study Of Espionage Missions

Thanks. Gee, that's complicated. Is there a rule of thumb version for these? What I tend to do nowadays is conquer, then abandon cities and build my own, but there are disadvantages to this. I hate adverse flips though!

 

[Abegweit]

CAII will give you the probability for any flip.

 

[CommandoBob]

Couple of questions:

1 is there a way of knowing how long before a city is going to do a culture flip, yours or theirs?

Both MapStat and CivAssistII will do that and show how many units you need in that city to prevent the flip.

 

[Takhisis]

It's easier if you just send in a couple Settlers to even the cultural odds, or destroy the city and rebuild it. Or, you can just destroy the enemy's nearest cities… if there's no one to flip to, they won't rebel.

 

[walletta]

Thanks for the replies. I do not know what Mapstat or CAII are. Takhisis, I had no idea the presence of settlers made a difference but I have started to adopt the other stratagems you refer to.

 

[Takhisis]

No, not just the presence of Settlers. You have to move them into the city and then join them to its population.

 

[Etain]

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[vmxa]

You can disable culture conversions in the game menu.

 

[Etain]

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[walletta]

No, not just the presence of Settlers. You have to move them into the city and then join them to its population.

Oh, I see, to dilute the population with your own citizens. I guess workers would also work then.

 

[walletta]

Walletta - Sorry, I thought you were wanting the technical details behind flips and espionage. I don't know about a rule of thumb, but CivAssist is a utility program that runs alongside the game that provides information to help with empire management - like flip calculations. I personally, don't use it anymore, but it can be helpful.

Alternatively, you could create a new scenario in the editor where you keep everything the same, but under scenario properties you could deselect default game rules and remove the "Allow Cultural Conversions" option.

Please don't apologise. I appreciate the information, even though I sometimes think we are playing different games. Your second thing sounds like cheating and I would not know how to use the first. I just wanted to know how much time I've got before a city flips because, tactically, I might want to use it as a stepping stone for further advances before, say, abandoning it and planting my own settler.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

I just wanted to know how much time I've got before a city flips because, tactically, I might want to use it as a stepping stone for further advances before, say, abandoning it and planting my own settler.

On the first turn after capture a city will never flip. That's how long you've got.

 

[Takhisis]

Oh, I see, to dilute the population with your own citizens. I guess workers would also work then.

Yes, but workers are better employed elsewhere. Remember, never use captured workers for that, or, at least, not workers from the same nationality as the recently captured locals. Also remember that workers and settlers get the same 'nationality' as the people from their city have, so captured cities might give you 'foreign' workers and settlers.

 

[splunge the 2nd]

There's a mechanic in the game that if ou fail to plant a spy, reepated attempts will also fail for some period of time. I apologize I can't remeber the details. That might explain your repeated failures to place a spy.

Democracies are immune to the espionage operation propaganda, otherwise I believe there's nothing civ specific that impacts success of missions.

regarding flipping- driving down the local population helps prevent it, I believe. I routinely set the whole captured city as entertainers to both avoid unrest and also to cut food production and let them starve. Once the population drops, new growth will be loyal.

 

[Takhisis]

There's a mechanic in the game that if ou fail to plant a spy, reepated attempts will also fail for some period of time. I apologize I can't remeber the details. That might explain your repeated failures to place a spy.

For the same turn. You can attempt a thousand times if you can afford to spend the gold, and you'll get the same result.

Democracies are immune to the espionage operation propaganda, otherwise I believe there's nothing civ specific that impacts success of missions.

Each government has their own level of spy capabilities.

regarding flipping- driving down the local population helps prevent it, I believe. I routinely set the whole captured city as entertainers to both avoid unrest and also to cut food production and let them starve. Once the population drops, new growth will be loyal.

All growth in your cities will be loyal to you. The problem is, your citizens don't want to work at first.

 

[walletta]

All noted. Thank you.

 

[splunge the 2nd]

Thanks Takhisis for the clarification. I didn't know diferent govenments had different spy stats!

 

[r16]

have the Steam Civ on my new computer ; El Justo has a no-raze patch for Vietnam Deluxe . Can ı use those "normal" Conquest.EXE files ? As in the Samurai in the title screen instead of the bank safe ?

 

[Takhisis]

Yes, some tweaking ought to be done, but, yes, you can restore the Samurai screen.

That's what you were asking, right?

 

[r16]

about the possibility of playing the no-raze patch without any problems that might hurt my precious new lap top . ı had already taken some unusual courage to test it a bit and the no-raze .EXE opened the Samurai screen ; was afraid playing might have caused trouble . Thanks for the answer so far and ı would be even more happy to get a list of tweaking points if there is any available .